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New TSA Rules add to travel pleasure

#1 Postby alicia-w » Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:45 am

New electronics rules unveiled at airports
Fliers must remove full-size devices from carry-ons for screening
Kelsey Hazlewood
The Arizona Republic
Aug. 8, 2007 12:00 AM

Tech-savvy children and adults toting DVD players, video cameras that use cassettes, projectors and full-size video games through Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport will now have to spend even more time at security checkpoints unpacking and repacking their electronic devices.

The U.S. Transportation Security Administration imposed a new rule that requires all large electronics to be removed from carry-on luggage before passing through security.

Cellphones, music players and hand-held video games are not affected.

The electronics to be checked must be placed in a separate bin to pass through the X-ray machines.

Laptops have always had to be removed from carry-on luggage, but now that screening includes the full-sized game consoles like PlayStation 2, full-sized DVD players and Continuous Positive Airway Pressure breathing machines.

Nico Melendez, TSA public affairs manager for the five state region including Arizona, said that to be safe, any electronics except for cellphones and small music players, such as iPods, should be removed from carry-on luggage.

The TSA rule took effect Saturday along with revised rules allowing breast milk and most cigarette lighters to be carried on board planes. But few passengers had heard about it.



Fountain Hills resident Nancy Barbero, 62, had not heard of the new large-electronics rule but said it was probably a good idea.

"It's going to take more time," Barbero said. "But I think if we need to do it, we need to do it."



Families with children seemed to be the most wary of the rule, simply because it is one additional obstacle to deal with at the airport.

Charles Benion, 9, of Detroit, was traveling through security Tuesday with his great-aunt Margaret Sample, 52, of Gilbert. Benion had a PlayStation 2 console in his backpack, which he had to remove and place in a bin because of the new rule.

Jeff Russell, 52, of Delaware, said airport security was difficult to deal with before, but because his two boys have "way too many" electronics, it will now be more exhausting.

However, Russell supported the new rule.

"I think it's necessary because there's crazy people out there that ruined it for the rest of us," he said.




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#2 Postby gtalum » Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:48 am

Well they made a retreat in the War on Cigarette Lighters, but have advanced the front in the War on Electronics. I wonder what's in store for the War on Liquids? :lol:

Also significant, it looks like our national paranoia is about to start causing us grief when traveling to the EU.
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#3 Postby alicia-w » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:20 am

well that would just suck.
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#4 Postby x-y-no » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:28 am

If only I had any confidence that those TSA employees would actually recognize a bomb if they saw one ...
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#5 Postby alicia-w » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:19 am

an acquaintance traveled with his wife and invalid son from LA a couple of weeks ago. the son had major surgery on his spine and was in a body brace and in a wheelchair. the TSA folks had absolutely no idea how to process him through the security checkpoint. both parents were livid that not only were they just standing there while FIVE TSA AGENTS stood around trying to figure out to do, but the line behind was getting longer and the growing crowd was getting ugly. It's just irresponsible that these people are entrusted with this level of security issues and have minimal training to handle it.
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#6 Postby JonathanBelles » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:26 pm

Why would you take a playstation on the plane anyway?
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#7 Postby gtalum » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:57 pm

fact789 wrote:Why would you take a playstation on the plane anyway?


If you're taking the kids to Grandma's for a few days and they want to play with it, what else would you do with it?

Further, it's not just Playstations or full-size home gaming systems. It's for portable gaming devices as well.
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#8 Postby chadtm80 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:03 pm

Right.. I believe they are really reffering to the hand held stations
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#9 Postby Janie2006 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:43 pm

x-y-no wrote:If only I had any confidence that those TSA employees would actually recognize a bomb if they saw one ...


*snicker*

What about the quote from the woman: "I think if we need to do it, we need to do it." I suppose that makes sense in a twisted sort of manner.
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#10 Postby gtalum » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:58 pm

It's amazing to me the number of people who are willing to put up with inconvenience and invasion of privacy, even for ineffective "security, simply because someone in the government says it's necessary.
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#11 Postby Stephanie » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:48 pm

We need security, but we also need TRAINED people to conduct the checks and they need to be paid well.

It almost seems as if they're picking a "new flavor" of the month to see what may or may not work. :roll:
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#12 Postby Janie2006 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:50 pm

The federal government can ban toothpaste and make airline travel a hardship worthy of one of Dante's circles of hell, but it can't find a monkey smuggled aboard an airline.


Yep, I feel really safe.
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#13 Postby Stephanie » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:50 pm

Janie2006 wrote:The federal government can ban toothpaste and make airline travel a hardship worthy of one of Dante's circles of hell, but it can't find a monkey smuggled aboard an airline.


Yep, I feel really safe.



That just about says it all!
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#14 Postby pojo » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:53 am

I just came off of commerical flights... noise cancelling headphones CANNOT be used on take-off or final approach!
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#15 Postby Beam » Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:30 am

Airport security in the US these days is some crazy, fascist stuff. All they're doing is inconveniencing people needlessly and stealing-- I'm sorry, confiscating their belongings, and I don't feel any safer for it. I don't think anyone else does, either.
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#16 Postby Category 5 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:07 pm

Beam wrote:Airport security in the US these days is some crazy, fascist stuff.


I agree it's nonsense. And frankly, none of it makes me feel any safer.
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#17 Postby therock1811 » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:00 am

alicia-w wrote:an acquaintance traveled with his wife and invalid son from LA a couple of weeks ago. the son had major surgery on his spine and was in a body brace and in a wheelchair. the TSA folks had absolutely no idea how to process him through the security checkpoint. both parents were livid that not only were they just standing there while FIVE TSA AGENTS stood around trying to figure out to do, but the line behind was getting longer and the growing crowd was getting ugly. It's just irresponsible that these people are entrusted with this level of security issues and have minimal training to handle it.


Simple, you use a hand-held metal detector. I've been through security at courthouses and at a cruise terminal, and I have two rods in my spine. Thats how you handle that.
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