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#1 Postby azsnowman » Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:24 pm

I KNEW IT...."jerks!" :grr: Gas has gone up AGAIN, YET, STILL.....I'm WELL OVER $3.49 for the CHEAP STUFF and $3.69 for premium!! I hope to HADES that if they find out these jerks are PRICE GOUGING, they fine their sorry butts :grr:

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Arizona has highest gas prices in West

Max Jarman
The Arizona Republic
Sept. 7, 2005 12:00 AM

Arizona is running out ahead of other Western states but not in a way that is going to cause people to start bragging.

The price of a gallon of gas in the Valley has surpassed the cost of gas in Southern California, which typically is considerably higher.

Arizona's average of $3.12 was the highest in the West on Tuesday. That compares with $3.05 in California, $2.99 in Nevada and $2.92 in Washington. advertisement




Filling up in San Diego or Los Angeles is now a bargain compared with gassing your tank in metro Phoenix.

Gas-price monitor AAA reported the average price of non-lead regular in Phoenix/Mesa at $3.14 per gallon Tuesday, 9 cents more than in San Diego and 14 cents higher than in Los Angeles.

The Arizona price is up $1.18 per gallon, or 61 percent, from a year ago.

Although experts are unable to say exactly why Arizona's prices are so high, the most likely culprits are high demand, shrinking reserves and the effects of Hurricane Katrina. In addition, Arizona has been affected by a refinery outage in New Mexico.

State Attorney General Terry Goddard believes the prices are unjustified and said they underscore the need for an anti-gouging law.

"Without an anti-gouging law, Arizona has very limited legal ability to protect consumers from unreasonable increases," he said.

The Legislature has twice turned down such legislation

The high prices have caught the attention of Sen. Thayer Verschoor, R-Gilbert. Verschoor, chairman of the Senate Transportation Committee, has asked state agencies to meet today to determine whether more can be done to lower prices.

David Cowley, a spokesman for AAA Arizona, believes the high Arizona prices could be fallout from an outage at Holly Corp.'s Navajo Refinery in Artesia, N.M., just before Hurricane Katrina struck the Gulf Coast on Aug 29. The refinery is one of four that feed gasoline into the El Paso-to-Phoenix pipeline that serves the Valley.

The refinery outage and increased demand as the holiday weekend approached reduced the Valley's fuel reserves to below an optimal seven days' worth.

"We entered the situation of the 29th with (gas) supplies in the Valley probably half of what they should be," Cowley said. "We're still trying to catch up.

The Arizona Department of Weights and Measures reported Tuesday that there was a three-day supply of gasoline in the Valley's storage tanks, given normal consumption levels.

"We certainly would like to see more," department spokesman Steven Meissner said.

He would not say how many days' worth would be optimal and attributed the drop to unusually high demand.

Meissner noted that before the holiday weekend, some stations were reporting a 40 percent surge in demand.

"A 40 percent increase in demand is going to have an effect on supply and prices," he said.

But increased demand was nowhere near as severe as the panic buying that followed the shutdown of one of two gas-supply lines in 2003. That created shortages, long lines at the pump and prices that had never been seen before.

"We did good," Cowley said of the relatively calm reaction to the recent price increases. "Arizonans exercised some restraint."

Besides causing enormous property damage and loss of life, the storm knocked out 95 percent of the oil and 88 percent of the natural-gas production in the energy-rich region. It also closed nine oil refineries and cut the nation's gasoline production by 10 percent. That has created shortages, particularly in the East and Midwest, and rising prices nationwide.

The national average reported by AAA on Tuesday was $3.04, up $1.19 per gallon, or 64 percent, from a year ago. But some of the refineries are getting back into production, which could reduce the shortfall to 5 percent.

Cowley noted that the refineries and pipelines that supply the Valley with gasoline are now operating at capacity. And, a recent temporary waiver of clean-air rules will allow traditionally lower-cost non-formulated gas to be brought in.

While some states are considering temporarily suspending sales taxes on gasoline to drive prices down, Pati Urias, a spokeswoman for Gov. Janet Napolitano, said there would be no reduction in the state's 18-cent-per-gallon gas tax.

"The fiscal impact on our road projects would be too great," she said.
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#2 Postby GalvestonDuck » Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:33 pm

I blame Katrina.
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#3 Postby azsnowman » Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:55 pm

GalvestonDuck wrote:I blame Katrina.


Maybe but I don't see it here, it's the GREEDY oil distributors in Az....they KNOW that there's NOTHING that can be done to them UNTIL Az passes the "Anti Gouging Bill" which will never happen while the current gov. is in place!

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#4 Postby Aslkahuna » Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:19 pm

It's NOT the current Governor (though Heaven knows I don't like her) but the REPUBLICANS in the State House and Senate that refuse to pass anti gouging legislation because they want to protect their business buddies and screw the people.

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#5 Postby TexasStooge » Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:00 pm

Gas prices have dropped 10 cents here, but I have a feeling they'll be back up again.
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#6 Postby azsnowman » Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:51 am

Here's but one story of how gas is affecting peoples budgets. Now...this young people, IMHO, need to "downsize" a little, however, if gas prices are hurting people in this income bracket, I can ONLY imagine what it's doing to those who are making "minimum wage" or just above the MW!

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Some afford homes, fret over gas

Carl Holcombe
The Arizona Republic
Sept. 9, 2005 12:00 AM

The rush for cheaper homes in the west Valley and Pinal County is catching up to some homeowners feeling the pangs of gasoline costs that have soared past $3 a gallon.

Their flight to affordability is now a struggle to make mortgage payments, as families drops hundreds of dollars per month more into gas tanks, enduring 100-mile roundtrip commutes while worrying about losing what will likely be the biggest investment of their lifetime.

Newlyweds Jennifer and Samuel Sayles moved from San Diego and bought their first home in late June in Gilbert. advertisement




With precise budgeting and by limiting personal spending to $40 each per week, they could afford their 1,800-square-foot, $235,000 house - until gasoline prices ripped through the roof of their dreams.

"We want to avoid selling; that's our ultimate fear," Jennifer Sayles said.

The young couple plans to put their home on the rental market and look to rent a small, cheap one-bedroom apartment closer to their jobs in downtown Phoenix.

Even with their fuel-efficient compact cars, the roughly $75 more per month for gas hurts.

Gasoline prices have increased about 50 percent Valley-wide since July 1, according to the American Automobile Association's Phoenix office,

Still, prices would probably maintain current levels for months before significant effects are felt, said Jay Butler, director of the Arizona Real Estate Center at Arizona State University's Polytechnic campus.

"If you live 'out there,' you make trade-offs," Butler said. "You may give up one trip a week to a restaurant. But if you're looking for a home, you may take it into serious consideration."

The Sayles have so far eliminated San Diego visits, cut off their cable TV to save $50 a month, left the thermostat at 85 degrees and don't buy new clothes Shutting off their cellphones may be next, as well as selling their interest in a time-share condo to save $200 a month.

"We're basically barricading ourselves in our house," Sayles said. "We want to get out and mingle and see what the town has to offer, but we can't. I just turned 21 in July, and I'm staying home on Saturday nights playing Monopoly. It's my favorite game now."

City of Maricopa residents Mathew and Rachele Reese got a great deal two years ago on their 2,400-square-foot house. Mathew retired from the Maricopa Unified School District and things looked financially bright when he took a job at Apache Junction as a charter school principal in early June when gas cost about $1.70.

Now, his wallet's nearly running on empty as twice weekly fill-ups for his Toyota Corolla cost $80 instead of $40.

"It makes me want to look at the want-ads and find something closer," Reese said.

Barbara Parsons likes her big house in San Tan Heights,but she doesn't like her 124-mile roundtrip commute to an engineering job at Union Hills and Interstate 17 in Phoenix.

She usually drives a Chrysler Sebring, but Pinal County and southern Maricopa County's poor road system sometimes force her to take a gas-guzzling SUV to get through rough or flooded roads, which further drives up costs. And it makes it tough for friends to visit.

"I don't go out on weekends, and people won't come see me in San Tan," Parsons said. "So my social life suffers."

Buckeye residents Sean and Kristy Grippo, who moved in January from the Sacramento area to buy a house, have felt the pinch. Sean drives around Phoenix and to Tucson for work. He gets reimbursed for mileage, but those rates haven't kept pace with fuel price surges.

"It's impacting our finances quite a bit, but we're on a tight budget anyway," Kristy said. "We're getting to the point of worrying about our mortgage."

Boston transplants Mike and Stephanie Paesano bought a 3,100-square-foot Paradise Valley home for the same price as a 1,500-square-foot home back East.

But they're spending $800 a month on gas.

"We're pretty much stuck in the pool and hanging out at home," Mike said.
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#7 Postby gtalum » Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:50 am

This is what we get for building our country based on a limited resource (cheap fuel).

Maybe this will be the impetus to build decent mas stransit systems and reverse the short-sighted trend of "white flight".
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#8 Postby Skywatch_NC » Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:55 am

gtalum wrote:This is what we get for building our country based on a limited resource (cheap fuel).

Maybe this will be the impetus to build decent mas stransit systems and reverse the short-sighted trend of "white flight".


"White flight"?
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#9 Postby gtalum » Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:01 am

Skywatch_NC wrote:"White flight"?


It's a cutesy name for the trend of the 1950's onward that built the suburbs. White people tended to flee the cities en masse. It was actually middle-class and wealthy people that fled the cities, but at the time that was primarily whites. Anyway, it's what created the suburbs and made it standard to commute many miles to work. Unfortunately, this is unsustainable in the long term for a nation, since cheap fuel will not always be available.

The other more palatable option is to do real research on alternative methods of powering automobiles. But if we don't do that research, the only solution is to move back to the cities.
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