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#1641 Postby MGC » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:58 pm

As long as a hurricane moves away from any given location in mid ocean upwelling in not an issue. I see nothing in the short term to hinder intensification save an eyewall replacement cycle.......MGC
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#1642 Postby perk » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:58 pm

Weatherboy1 you might want to look at the latest model run that Cyclone just posted. I see no indication of a NW movement except for the nc98 which we all know is out to lunch.
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#1643 Postby dhweather » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:58 pm

Mike, very nice work!

I would like to offer, while Frances is no immediate threat to
the US, many of us forget to check our hurricane plans annually.

Frances may or may not threaten anyone, but right now,
you won't have any trouble stocking up on some essentials:

Flashlights
Batteries for flashlights
Radios
Batteries for radios
Water, enough for at least three days for your household.
Canned food
Manual can opener
Other foods that do not require refrigeration
Any medications you may need
And so on.

Make sure you have your evacuation route planned out.



While I can't tell you where Frances will make landfall, if at all, I can
guarantee you this - if she approaches the US as a major hurricane,
particularly with Charley fresh on everyone's mind, you will not find
ANY of these supplies within 100 miles (or more) of the area expected for landfall.
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#1644 Postby c5Camille » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:59 pm

south... cat 4-5
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#1645 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:00 pm

Those models globals and tropical are in consensus.
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#1646 Postby Aquawind » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:00 pm

NOAA-NHC Saubers1 wrote:Precisely, Its going to change direction to the north, drawn in by low pressure from gaston.


Well I mentioned this possibility yesterday and everything I have read says otherwise..I hope it happens..Crazy how now it seems to be going west and some models even have it further south than Forecasted..NHC has nailed it so far..
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#1647 Postby NOAA-NHC Saubers1 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:00 pm

Thats ridiculous upwelling wont affect this storm, Category 5 expected for tomorrow, with water temperatures being so high, and it moving at a consistent 9mph nothings gonna get in the way of this one....get ready
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#1648 Postby chris_fit » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:05 pm

Certainly not looking good for FL

:( I should get my shopping done too here in Melbourne
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look at the last two BAMD plots

#1649 Postby Weatherboy1 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:05 pm

Weatherboy1 you might want to look at the latest model run that Cyclone just posted. I see no indication of a NW movement except for the nc98 which we all know is out to lunch.


It's not much, but the last two BAMD plots show a SLIGHT turn to the NW (really -- between WNW and NW). This is only a very small change from previous runs. But it's worth pointing out because if future tropical model runs show more continuity with the GFDL (which is further to the NE and well E of FL), then that is encouraging.

Again, this is a VERY SMALL deviation, but it's there, so I posted a mention of it. To see a graphical view of this, go to the following link:

http://www.sfwmd.gov/org/omd/ops/weather/plots/storm_06.gif
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#1650 Postby schmita » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:07 pm

BAMM 19.6N 61.5W
48 hours?
Not crazy about this one, Luis..........
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#1651 Postby Janie34 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:07 pm

Hrrmmm, I wasn't as clear as I should have been. Hypothetically speaking, assuming this storm reaches Cat 5 strengh tomorrow what would be the chances that it could maintain this intensity for 4 or 5 days? Even with the warm SSTs and weak shear? Its the rare Atlantic storm that can maintain that kind of intensty for over 24/48 hours. I'm more interested in the mechanisms responsible for that kind of situation rather than Frances in particular, at least on this thread. I suppose its more of a theoretical question than anything else. I knew I should have taken tropical met this semester. Gah.
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Frances Threat To South Florida?

#1652 Postby Hurricanegurl56 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:09 pm

should i buy my water and stuff for the hurricane? or do u think this one will move north to the carolinas or stay south of florida?
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#1653 Postby abajan » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:13 pm

Buy the stuff.
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You can wait until tomorrow

#1654 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:14 pm

You can wait until tomorrow but it wouldn't be a bad idea if the NHC hasn't changed by then to do so..
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Re: Frances Threat To South Florida?

#1655 Postby dhweather » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:14 pm

Hurricanegurl56 wrote:should i buy my water and stuff for the hurricane? or do u think this one will move north to the carolinas or stay south of florida?


You should ALWAYS be prepared during Hurricane season.
Mike has a great sticky to read on this. I offer this too:


I would like to offer, while Frances is no immediate threat to
the US, many of us forget to check our hurricane plans annually.

Frances may or may not threaten anyone, but right now,
you won't have any trouble stocking up on some essentials:

Flashlights
Batteries for flashlights
Radios
Batteries for radios
Water, enough for at least three days for your household.
Canned food
Manual can opener
Other foods that do not require refrigeration
Any medications you may need
And so on.

Make sure you have your evacuation route planned out.



While I can't tell you where Frances will make landfall, if at all, I can
guarantee you this - if she approaches the US as a major hurricane,
particularly with Charley fresh on everyone's mind, you will not find
ANY of these supplies within 100 miles (or more) of the area expected for landfall.
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#1656 Postby NOAA-NHC Saubers1 » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:14 pm

Too early to say, wait until tommorow, more accurate information will be available tomorrow, this system may turn north at the last second....this is a waiting game.
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#1657 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:16 pm

I would wait until at least Monday morning. But you should always keep your hurricane plans at hand on June 1.

<RICKY>
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#1658 Postby PTPatrick » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:20 pm

What may ask is the significance of the Hebert box...is it like the point where history says if it goes north of it, it is likely to recurve, and south of it likely to hit the US mainland?
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#1659 Postby amawea » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:21 pm

Please folks, you guys in the southern tip of Fl. and the keys prepare now. Don't wait for the rush when everything will be sparse. Stay tuned over the next 4 days, but please get the essentials. Batteries, gas, and canned goods. Do it now!
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#1660 Postby Air Force Met » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:22 pm

North...by a whisker.
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