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#1621 Postby MBismyPlayground » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:07 am

Why am I getting this horrible feeling in my gut that this might out do any of the others??? Alot of unique characteristics in this one. I think Ivan has a bag of tricks in store for us that no one can really begin to predict. :(
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#1622 Postby ilmc172pilot » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:07 am

Holy crap....thats coming my way....... :(
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#1623 Postby senorpepr » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:08 am

Stratosphere747 wrote:Senor....How much stronger could it really get?? Being that is has not found the warmest SST's...


I'm not sure at this point. I'm amazed.
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#1624 Postby hurricanemike » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:08 am

Senor,

I see you beat me to it.

Kudos.
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#1625 Postby mobilebay » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:10 am

I just verified... Yup a degree and half in 6 hours. hardly slowing...
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#1626 Postby mobilebay » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:11 am

Sean in New Orleans wrote:Right now, I'm leaning on this track, as well. It's obviously hard to tell much now, but, stepping back and looking at the big picture, I can easily see a panhandle Florida hit...but, we've still got plenty of time to watch. It'll be interesting to see which track verifies with this system.

also to note... The longer this thing keeps barreling westwerd, the more the eventual track will be. NO north turn yet.
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!54 KTS !!!!

#1627 Postby South Tampa » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:12 am

Ivan is up there in the annals of history with Allen,Gilbert, Andrew, Mitch and dare it go there Camille and the Keys storm!!!
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#1628 Postby MWatkins » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:13 am

mobilebay wrote:MIke the 2400 fix was near 68.1W, the 0100 fix is near 69.5. Not much slowing there to me. A degree and a half in 6 H. IMO>



Here are the last 5 advisory positions since 2pm this afternoon:

0908-18 13.1 67
0908-21 13.4 67.7
0909-00 13.4 68.4
0909-03 13.6 69.1
0909-06 13.7 69.5

The 3 hour movement is slower...but 1.5 degrees over 6 hours is 6 degrees of latitude per day...or 15 knots.

The 12 hour motion has been closer to 17 knots.

This slowdown over the last 3 hours is probably why they noted "with some decrease in forward speed" in the 2am advisory.

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Re: !54 KTS !!!!

#1629 Postby yoda » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:13 am

South Tampa wrote:Ivan is up there in the annals of history with Allen,Gilbert, Andrew, Mitch and dare it go there Camille and the Keys storm!!!


Don't forget Isabel... even though it was a CAT 5 over water...
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#1630 Postby TSmith274 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:14 am

This is my first post. This is a great board yall have here. Quick question though... Is this really the FSU Superensemble? I've always been told that this model was protected and not viewable by the public.
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#1631 Postby tronbunny » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:14 am

Definition of Monster=Ivan
This is an appropriate time to pray for all in it's path.
:-[
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#1632 Postby Dmetal81 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:14 am

A hurricane with hail? Ive never hear of this before... and frequent lightning in the EYEWALL? Wow.....
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HUGO..............

#1633 Postby bobbisboy » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:15 am

I believe HUGO had a pressure of 918 east of the islands at one point during his track.
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#1634 Postby yoda » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:15 am

Welcome to the board TSmith274. :D :D

I really have no idea about the FSU SE... I will ask...
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#1635 Postby senorpepr » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:16 am

remember... 154kts at flight level. They have the sfc intensity at 140kts/160mph.
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#1636 Postby FritzPaul » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:18 am

You don't think if Ivan doesnt slow that he could make it to the GOM before the trough that is forecast to come across the CONUS, which could leave him stranded somewhere in the GOM waiting for some substinate steering currents?
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#1637 Postby Stratosphere747 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:18 am

Wow...Being the novice that I am....And I'm not even trying to imply any negative bias to the NHC...But looking at the 11pm disc...

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 09/0300Z 13.6N 69.1W 125 KT
12HR VT 09/1200Z 14.5N 71.0W 135 KT
24HR VT 10/0000Z 15.9N 73.4W 130 KT


And now 13.7 N... 69.5 W.

Would the unique strength of Ivan began to change not so much the models but the dynamics ahead of him??
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#1638 Postby MWatkins » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:18 am

Note that the only members of that ensemble track are:

The 18Z GFDL
The 00Z CMC
The 18Z MM5

Not too worried about it yet. The new GFDL...GFS...NOGAPS and UKMET aren't in there yet.

MW
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#1639 Postby btsgmdad » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:19 am

Mike, do you really think this is the superensemble?
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#1640 Postby yoda » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:19 am

MWatkins wrote:Note that the only members of that ensemble track are:

The 18Z GFDL
The 00Z CMC
The 18Z MM5

Not too worried about it yet. The new GFDL...GFS...NOGAPS and UKMET aren't in there yet.

MW


Well... the GFDL is scary now.. it is eerily similar to what the ECMWF has been showing for the past couple of runs...
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