Hurricane Wilma - Cat. 5

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#3381 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:58 am

Eye filling in does NOT mean:

- The Hurricane Is Dipping South
- The Hurricane Will Be A Tropical Storm Tomorrow
- There is Rapid Decay

Eye filling in DOES mean:

- The Hurricane Could Be Going Through an ERC
- The Hurricane Should Weaken Somewhat Tomorrow


REMEMBER:

- The NE Tip of Yucatan is VERY flat
- The Hurricane Will Be Over a Small Part of It
- The Hurricane May Be over the GOM in 24 Hours
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#3382 Postby calculatedrisk » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:00 am

NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR

HURRICANE WILMA 24L

INITIAL TIME 0Z OCT 22

DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT
REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD
NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC
OFFICIAL FORECAST.


FORECAST STORM POSITION

HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)

0 20.7 86.8 330./ 4.1
6 20.8 87.1 293./ 2.5
12 21.0 87.1 351./ 2.4
18 21.4 87.0 10./ 4.0
24 21.8 86.9 20./ 4.1
30 22.2 86.7 30./ 4.3
36 23.0 86.3 25./ 8.7
42 23.7 85.7 41./ 8.9
48 24.7 84.6 47./14.1
54 25.7 83.0 58./17.4
60 27.1 81.0 54./22.9
66 28.9 78.4 57./28.7
72 31.5 75.1 52./38.7
78 35.0 71.6 45./45.7
84 39.2 68.1 40./50.6
90 42.6 66.1 31./37.2
96 44.7 65.8 8./20.9
102 45.8 66.4 330./11.7
108 46.2 65.6 63./ 7.3
114 46.5 64.2 79./ 9.6
120 46.3 63.5 104./ 5.0
126 45.8 62.9 124./ 6.3
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#3383 Postby shawn67 » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:01 am

DoctorHurricane2003 wrote:Eye filling in does NOT mean:

- The Hurricane Is Dipping South
- The Hurricane Will Be A Tropical Storm Tomorrow
- There is Rapid Decay

Eye filling in DOES mean:

- The Hurricane Could Be Going Through an ERC
- The Hurricane Should Weaken Somewhat Tomorrow


REMEMBER:

- The NE Tip of Yucatan is VERY flat
- The Hurricane Will Be Over a Small Part of It
- The Hurricane May Be over the GOM in 24 Hours


Dont forget it is also rather swampy as well

Shawn
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#3384 Postby quandary » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:05 am

Thoughts on Wilma:

Wilma is a bit inland over Mexico, so it will start weakening overnight. Biggest question is when the eye moves over water, since Wilma has shown that it is capable of maintaining strength as long as the eye is over water (it was Cat 4 by recon all day).

Eye seems to have collapsed a bit, so if Wilma spends too much more time over the YP, it'll emerge much weakened. On the other hand, it seems to be "shrinking" unlike many storms which "grow" and lose their inner core when they hit land. So, in this case, if it keeps the core and low pressure, it'll likely spin right back up over water. Tonight is critical.
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#3385 Postby calculatedrisk » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:11 am

Amateur caveats apply:

The GFDL is not taking Wilma very far west from its current position. It is also predicting the eye will spend less than 24 hours over the Yucatan and then race to Florida.

This is a dangerous projection.
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#3386 Postby Aquawind » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:12 am

Looks Faster..


http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2. ... =Animation


quote="calculatedrisk"]NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR

HURRICANE WILMA 24L

INITIAL TIME 0Z OCT 22

DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT
REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD
NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC
OFFICIAL FORECAST.


FORECAST STORM POSITION

HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)

0 20.7 86.8 330./ 4.1
6 20.8 87.1 293./ 2.5
12 21.0 87.1 351./ 2.4
18 21.4 87.0 10./ 4.0
24 21.8 86.9 20./ 4.1
30 22.2 86.7 30./ 4.3
36 23.0 86.3 25./ 8.7
42 23.7 85.7 41./ 8.9
48 24.7 84.6 47./14.1
54 25.7 83.0 58./17.4
60 27.1 81.0 54./22.9
66 28.9 78.4 57./28.7
72 31.5 75.1 52./38.7
78 35.0 71.6 45./45.7
84 39.2 68.1 40./50.6
90 42.6 66.1 31./37.2
96 44.7 65.8 8./20.9
102 45.8 66.4 330./11.7
108 46.2 65.6 63./ 7.3
114 46.5 64.2 79./ 9.6
120 46.3 63.5 104./ 5.0
126 45.8 62.9 124./ 6.3
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#3387 Postby markymark8 » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:14 am

Anybody with good sight can see she is moving more to the west to northwest. If she does not start moving NNW like earlier tonight she will go the long way around like the NHC path in the 5 pm advisory and be a cat 1 hitting Florida. She was on that more northerly course earlier but not now. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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#3388 Postby CHRISTY » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:19 am

yep i agree this might not even make out the ucatan as a hurricane..
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#3389 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:34 am

CHRISTY wrote:yep i agree this might not even make out the ucatan as a hurricane..



Thats what happen to Isidor...It would not suprize me if it was down to a cat1 by 24 hours.
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#3390 Postby gunner1551 » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:47 am

I still cant believe all the comments about this just goin away!! Remember Stan had by my guess at the very least 5 times longer of a trip across Mexico and he was darn close to makin it!! In addition Wilma's trip will be very flat when compared to Stans mountain filled journey. It will dissapate some what but not to the degree that some on here and wishing or forcasting it will.
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#3391 Postby markymark8 » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:49 am

That looks like a strong Cat 2 to me. she is going down fast and alot of people were commentimg on how the flat landmass wouldnt do to much to her. Her eye is almost GONE not to mention she is almost stationary. Please!!! :roll: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... IR4/20.jpg
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#3392 Postby Normandy » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:51 am

I don understand how people find this a GOOD thing that she is stalling over the Yucatan? You want to know how long the NE and N eyewall (recorded strongest part of Wilma) has been slamming Cancun? 4 hours and counting? And you know what? It is STILL slamming them. That is 4+ hours of 135+ mph winds, the structural damage their is going to be unreal. The guy posting on stormcarib is already reporting this:

"Several hotels have been reported to be severally damaged, and the Lagoon is now meeting the ocean in various parts of the hotel zone."

Id rather it just get out of there, they have had enough.
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#3393 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:56 am

Normandy wrote:I don understand how people find this a GOOD thing that she is stalling over the Yucatan? You want to know how long the NE and N eyewall (recorded strongest part of Wilma) has been slamming Cancun? 4 hours and counting? And you know what? It is STILL slamming them. That is 4+ hours of 135+ mph winds, the structural damage their is going to be unreal. The guy posting on stormcarib is already reporting this:

"Several hotels have been reported to be severally damaged, and the Lagoon is now meeting the ocean in various parts of the hotel zone."

Id rather it just get out of there, they have had enough.


its for selfish reasons. the longer it is there hopefully the weaker it is when it gets to florida. we have had enough to. its as easy as that.
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#3394 Postby bigmoney755 » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:58 am

161mph winds in cancun. "Winds currently in Cancun are at 260 kph and Wilma continues to move at 7 kph."

shown near the bottom of page.
http://help.stormcarib.com/read.php?5,2223
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#3395 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:59 am

Normandy, we know that the YP is going to be a disaster area of astronomical proportions, but at the same time we don't want to have a Cat. 3 or something like it in our coasts. It's kind of a mix of feelings!
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#3396 Postby JTD » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:02 am

jlauderdal wrote:
Normandy wrote:I don understand how people find this a GOOD thing that she is stalling over the Yucatan? You want to know how long the NE and N eyewall (recorded strongest part of Wilma) has been slamming Cancun? 4 hours and counting? And you know what? It is STILL slamming them. That is 4+ hours of 135+ mph winds, the structural damage their is going to be unreal. The guy posting on stormcarib is already reporting this:

"Several hotels have been reported to be severally damaged, and the Lagoon is now meeting the ocean in various parts of the hotel zone."

Id rather it just get out of there, they have had enough.


its for selfish reasons. the longer it is there hopefully the weaker it is when it gets to florida. we have had enough to. its as easy as that.


Florida can handle a hurricane a lot better than one of the poorest countries on earth.
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#3397 Postby Normandy » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:03 am

jlauderdal wrote:
Normandy wrote:I don understand how people find this a GOOD thing that she is stalling over the Yucatan? You want to know how long the NE and N eyewall (recorded strongest part of Wilma) has been slamming Cancun? 4 hours and counting? And you know what? It is STILL slamming them. That is 4+ hours of 135+ mph winds, the structural damage their is going to be unreal. The guy posting on stormcarib is already reporting this:

"Several hotels have been reported to be severally damaged, and the Lagoon is now meeting the ocean in various parts of the hotel zone."

Id rather it just get out of there, they have had enough.


its for selfish reasons. the longer it is there hopefully the weaker it is when it gets to florida. we have had enough to. its as easy as that.


You all would recieve a marginal 3 at best, and Florida's building codes are definitely strong enough to survive that (especially a FAST moving cat 3). id rather it move out and quickly rake across Florida because it wont do nearly the damage it will do to cancun if it sits over it for another day or so (minus coastal areas of florida which would be devastated).
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#3398 Postby gilbert88 » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:06 am

Seems like the 2004 season left some people severely affected.
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#3399 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:14 am

Yep I would much rather it hit the US than somewhere where 3000 people will die

humans are humans no matter where they live. Remember, that could have been you in Mexico
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#3400 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:19 am

DoctorHurricane2003 wrote:Yep I would much rather it hit the US than somewhere where 3000 people will die

humans are humans no matter where they live. Remember, that could have been you in Mexico


I agree...Also They are saying that it suppose to stay this way for the next 20 years. Just think if next year makes this year seem like 2004. I can see why so many ships got sunk with gold in the 12th to 15th centrys...I Also heard about them trying to build on the Gulf coast around 14th centry. I believe this was Florida they tryed this in. They got hit with hurricane after hurricane. In finally they just gave up.

I think periods like this are normal...In believe we got at least 10 more years. Just like those people we are going to have everything on the coast destroyed. If in fact this is going to last another 20 years.


I believe very strongly that we are in trouble.
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