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Is it possible for....

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:10 am
by Jim Cantore
a tropical system to carry 2 centers of circulation?

it may sound silly but I'm just curious.

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:12 am
by wjs3
Sure...one that's not well developed can have competing centers. Even more than two. That's not what you mean, though, is it?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:18 am
by Jim Cantore
What about two well developed centers?

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:29 am
by wjs3
I'd say unlikely.

There's going to be one center where convergence at the surface is stronger and divergence aloft is really cranking. It gets strong enough and it's going to obliterate any other centers.

Impossible? I don't know. Unlikely? For sure.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:52 am
by NFLDART
that would however be really interesting to see...

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:35 pm
by wxman57
It just so happens that I saved a shot of Mitch in 1998 which showed two distinct centers of circulation when the hurricane was at 942mb.

Image

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:43 pm
by Jim Cantore
wxman57 wrote:It just so happens that I saved a shot of Mitch in 1998 which showed two distinct centers of circulation when the hurricane was at 942mb.

Image


Thats freaky looking, almost looks photoshopped.

He's staring at us :eek:

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:47 pm
by wxman57
Category 5 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:It just so happens that I saved a shot of Mitch in 1998 which showed two distinct centers of circulation when the hurricane was at 942mb.

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/mitch5a.jpg


Thats freaky looking, almost looks photoshopped.

He's staring at us :eek:


Or PaintShop Pro... I made the image in 1998 when the NHC was talking about a double-eye structure. Was fun to show at hurricane conferences. ;-)

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:56 pm
by Jim Cantore
Wouldn't that be quite a sight huh.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:05 pm
by JonathanBelles
that was photoshoped look at the eye on the left and the 3 blue dashes.

a real storm was wilma at one point had 2 eyes

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:20 pm
by Jim Cantore
I'm not sure what caused it but I don't think it actually had 2 eyes, I hear it was dry air or something. I'm not sure.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:00 pm
by Ptarmigan
wxman57 wrote:It just so happens that I saved a shot of Mitch in 1998 which showed two distinct centers of circulation when the hurricane was at 942mb.

Image


Is that a real image? Looks photoshopped to me. :wink:

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:11 pm
by senorpepr
Aye, aye, aye...

Of course it's photoshopped... read what wxman said:

wxman57 wrote:Or PaintShop Pro... I made the image in 1998 when the NHC was talking about a double-eye structure. Was fun to show at hurricane conferences. :Wink:

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:22 pm
by Ptarmigan
senorpepr wrote:Aye, aye, aye...

Of course it's photoshopped... read what wxman said:

wxman57 wrote:Or PaintShop Pro... I made the image in 1998 when the NHC was talking about a double-eye structure. Was fun to show at hurricane conferences. :Wink:


Oh OK. :wink: :oops:

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:49 pm
by Aslkahuna
During the early stages of formation, many storms will show two or more distinct circulation centers until one becomes the dominant one and begins to intensify.

Steve

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:36 pm
by Jim Cantore
fact789 wrote:a real storm was wilma at one point had 2 eyes


Image

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:56 pm
by brunota2003
yes...Wilma's was caused by dry air entrainment...eroded part of the convection and caused a pocket of clear air to form...

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:25 pm
by wxman57
brunota2003 wrote:yes...Wilma's was caused by dry air entrainment...eroded part of the convection and caused a pocket of clear air to form...


Actually, I believe that picture shows a single very large eye with a band of clouds cutting across the center. Wilma was one of the largest hurricanes on record as it began ET transition after passing Florida. Had a very large eye.