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Anyone listening to Trent Lott on CNN?

#1 Postby al79philly » Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:23 pm

Basically, he just said that he is happy with the federal response and doesn't understand why people are questioning the government's response?

I am amazed - the government just doesn't get it. And its not even about party lines - Democrats and Republicans alike are dropping the ball here.

How long are they going to say help is on the way? How many people are going to be raped, or murdered, or die waiting for medicine.... This is so INFURIATING!

(Full disclosure - I'm a republican)
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#2 Postby coolwater » Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:30 pm

"Anderson, now is not the time for complaining"

That is a direct quote from Trent Lott in responce to Anderson Cooper telling him about the people in Mississippi upset over the slow response time by the Federal Goverment.

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#3 Postby al79philly » Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:32 pm

Yep, I heard that... I just can't even comprehend how he could go on the air and give that interview. The Mayor of NO was right - just stop doing press conferences altogether. All they serve to do is minimize the problem.
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#4 Postby HurriCat » Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:03 pm

We here in Orlando are told - over and over - every single time that a storm even looks like it's going to get named - to prepare a FIVE DAY SUPPLY of food and water for each member of the household. They even remind us about having food and supplies for our PETS, too.

The reason they give is that RESPONSE TIMES AFTER SUCH AN EVENT MAY BE LIMITED AND DELAYED.

It is our responsibility as individuals, parents, neighbors and friends to prepare.

Save the "no money" justifications. Canned foods and bottled water are some of the cheapest items you can get.

Save the "they lost everything" comments. If THEY themselves are in one piece, then why not a dufflebag or even a pillowcase with supplies in them? Are we to believe that ALL of these multitudes were thrown out into the storm, their houses and supplies all ripped away? NO. The floods came after the winds and rain.

The Red Cross is calling this their biggest response ever. It has to be about the same for FEMA? AS BIG AS IT IS, we are now seeing - on the FOURTH day - large numbers of troops, trucks and supplies "finally" :roll: getting around.

Again, our regular - and common sense - instructions are to prepare to go five days on our own. We and our children won't be "starving" and "justifiably" looting after less than 48 hours.

How much more is this notion just common sense for a city below sea-level?
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Re: Anyone listening to Trent Lott on CNN?

#5 Postby themusk » Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:05 pm

al79philly wrote:Basically, he just said that he is happy with the federal response and doesn't understand why people are questioning the government's response?

I am amazed - the government just doesn't get it. And its not even about party lines - Democrats and Republicans alike are dropping the ball here.

How long are they going to say help is on the way? How many people are going to be raped, or murdered, or die waiting for medicine.... This is so INFURIATING!

(Full disclosure - I'm a republican)


At risk of sounding political, I think it's time the citizens of the United States take back both their political parties, and vote only for leaders who value plain talk and realism over politics, ideology, or puffery.
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#6 Postby beenthru6 » Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:12 pm

HurriCat wrote:We here in Orlando are told - over and over - every single time that a storm even looks like it's going to get named - to prepare a FIVE DAY SUPPLY of food and water for each member of the household. They even remind us about having food and supplies for our PETS, too.

The reason they give is that RESPONSE TIMES AFTER SUCH AN EVENT MAY BE LIMITED AND DELAYED.

It is our responsibility as individuals, parents, neighbors and friends to prepare.

Save the "no money" justifications. Canned foods and bottled water are some of the cheapest items you can g


Save the "they lost everything" comments. If THEY themselves are in one piece, then why not a dufflebag or even a pillowcase with supplies in them? Are we to believe that ALL of these multitudes were thrown out into the storm, their houses and supplies all ripped away? NO. The floods came after the winds and rain.

The Red Cross is calling this their biggest response ever. It has to be about the same for FEMA? AS BIG AS IT IS, we are now seeing - on the FOURTH day - large numbers of troops, trucks and supplies "finally" :roll: getting around.

Again, our regular - and common sense - instructions are to prepare to go five days on our own. We and our children won't be "starving" and "justifiably" looting after less than 48 hours.

How much more is this notion just common sense for a city below sea-level?


Personal responsibility isn't politically correct anymore
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#7 Postby artist » Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:13 pm

seems really interesting that the mayor sent the police force home before the storm and said to check in the next morning, thus leaving everyone vunerable since the storm came in early and they couldn't get back.
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#8 Postby streetsoldier » Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:18 pm

The FEMA standards call for each citizen to have a store of two gallons of water PER PERSON, PER DAY...canned goods or MRE's to feed each person three meals a day for THREE WEEKS...generators, candles, extra clothing, etc. and the necessary means to defend each household from looters/deranged people....UNTIL HELP ARRIVES.

THREE WEEKS, ladies and gents...got it? :larrow:
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#9 Postby Cookiely » Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:20 pm

HurriCat wrote:We here in Orlando are told - over and over - every single time that a storm even looks like it's going to get named - to prepare a FIVE DAY SUPPLY of food and water for each member of the household. They even remind us about having food and supplies for our PETS, too.

The reason they give is that RESPONSE TIMES AFTER SUCH AN EVENT MAY BE LIMITED AND DELAYED.

It is our responsibility as individuals, parents, neighbors and friends to prepare.

Save the "no money" justifications. Canned foods and bottled water are some of the cheapest items you can get.
How many years have we been hearing this. Get prepared. Evacuate when ordered. I feel sorry for these people but I do believe the response was adequate. What do these people think that we have transporters like on Star Trek. Give me a break.

Save the "they lost everything" comments. If THEY themselves are in one piece, then why not a dufflebag or even a pillowcase with supplies in them? Are we to believe that ALL of these multitudes were thrown out into the storm, their houses and supplies all ripped away? NO. The floods came after the winds and rain.

The Red Cross is calling this their biggest response ever. It has to be about the same for FEMA? AS BIG AS IT IS, we are now seeing - on the FOURTH day - large numbers of troops, trucks and supplies "finally" :roll: getting around.

Again, our regular - and common sense - instructions are to prepare to go five days on our own. We and our children won't be "starving" and "justifiably" looting after less than 48 hours.

How much more is this notion just common sense for a city below sea-level?
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#10 Postby greeng13 » Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:23 pm

i'm watching fox and o'reilly is calling the gov of LA out as is their "military analyst)
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#11 Postby Hfcomms » Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:49 pm

One thing everyone needs to understand and that few do is that FEMA's primary mission is not disaster response, surprised?? FEMA's primary duty is COG (continuity of government). In the clinton years about 75 percent of FEMA personnel were focusing on COG and only about 25 percent in response to disasters.

This came out of the cold war when more were concerned about an instant decapitation strike. There is no real civil defense for civilains as has been painfully seen in the last few days but their are many, many bunkers and underground facilities for all facets of government and important industry. Some is known about and much more is not.

Fema's disaster response is an excellant cover for the billions of dollars that have been poured into it the last 25 years. For sure, Fema has the capability to respond to a medium regional disaster or disaster in a single state but can anyone say after watching the last several days that they are really up to the task??

Everyone's doing the best they can and not dissing the emergency management people at all but there is a common disease in this country. It's in making government "God" and assuming it can be your provider, protector and supplier in return for your taxes and acquiescence. If anything it is showing the american citizen and the world as a whole how utterly impotent government....any government can be when things happen "outside the box".
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#12 Postby sfgal » Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:56 pm

Save the "they lost everything" comments. If THEY themselves are in one piece, then why not a dufflebag or even a pillowcase with supplies in them? Are we to believe that ALL of these multitudes were thrown out into the storm, their houses and supplies all ripped away? NO. The floods came after the winds and rain.


To be fair, the floods in East New Orleans came WITH the storm. The floods in Lakeview, Mid-city, Gentilly and around the Superdome did come after the storm, though.
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#13 Postby cswitwer » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:19 pm

We here in Orlando are told - over and over - every single time that a storm even looks like it's going to get named - to prepare a FIVE DAY SUPPLY of food and water for each member of the household. They even remind us about having food and supplies for our PETS, too.

The reason they give is that RESPONSE TIMES AFTER SUCH AN EVENT MAY BE LIMITED AND DELAYED.

It is our responsibility as individuals, parents, neighbors and friends to prepare.

Save the "no money" justifications. Canned foods and bottled water are some of the cheapest items you can get.
How many years have we been hearing this. Get prepared. Evacuate when ordered. I feel sorry for these people but I do believe the response was adequate. What do these people think that we have transporters like on Star Trek. Give me a break.

Save the "they lost everything" comments. If THEY themselves are in one piece, then why not a dufflebag or even a pillowcase with supplies in them? Are we to believe that ALL of these multitudes were thrown out into the storm, their houses and supplies all ripped away? NO. The floods came after the winds and rain.

The Red Cross is calling this their biggest response ever. It has to be about the same for FEMA? AS BIG AS IT IS, we are now seeing - on the FOURTH day - large numbers of troops, trucks and supplies "finally" getting around.

Again, our regular - and common sense - instructions are to prepare to go five days on our own. We and our children won't be "starving" and "justifiably" looting after less than 48 hours.

How much more is this notion just common sense for a city below sea-level?


A possible New Orleans citizen response to your comments:

"Oh, I'm sorry, I know I should have left, but I have no car, no money, and barely manage to pay my rent because I'm 65 and kind of disabled and even to pay for a cab to the superdome is more money than I can afford in a month. I had three weeks of water and canned food amazingly enough and then suddenly a levee broke and my house flooded up to the attic and I had to climb up there and chop a hole in my roof and climb on top and stay there for three days while helicopters took my picture but no one could rescue me - and then they finally came and got me and took me dropped me on an overpass with no supplies and I walked to the convention center where there was no water or food and dead bodies everywhere and 10,000 other people.

I guess it is all my fault that I died of dehydration and heat stroke before they had time to 'put their operation plans into order'."
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#14 Postby artist » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:22 pm

Transportation was provided to the Superdome up until 6pm on Sunday. Nagin himself was telling everyone that was being done and they were running the entire area.
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#15 Postby cswitwer » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:32 pm

Transportation was provided to a FEW. There were not even barely enough buses and other transportation provided to help even 5% of the people who could not leave the city. And I mean COULD not. 80 people were just found dead in a NURSING HOME (see thread here). From drowning in flood waters form the levee break. You think the people in the nursing home bloody well had any ability to get themselves out of New Orleans???

The people that are dying because OUR GOVERMENT is failing them are the poorest of the poor who were NOT given any options, the sick, the injured, the disabled - people in hospitals, nursing homes, people in wheelchairs and oxygen tanks. People who can't care for themselves and who the local, state and national government had the responsibility to take care of. These are the majority of the people who are dying and suffering horribly.

STOP BLAMING THE PEOPLE.

It is SICKENING.
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#16 Postby artist » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:35 pm

Where did you get the info it was provided for only a few? So you are saying tha Nagin was lying about it?
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#17 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:35 pm

cswitwer wrote:Transportation was provided to a FEW. There were not even barely enough buses and other transportation provided to help even 5% of the people who could not leave the city. And I mean COULD not. 80 people were just found dead in a NURSING HOME (see thread here). From drowning in flood waters form the levee break. You think the people in the nursing home bloody well had any ability to get themselves out of New Orleans???

The people that are dying because OUR GOVERMENT is failing them are the poorest of the poor who were NOT given any options, the sick, the injured, the disabled - people in hospitals, nursing homes, people in wheelchairs and oxygen tanks. People who can't care for themselves and who the local, state and national government had the responsibility to take care of. These are the majority of the people who are dying and suffering horribly.

STOP BLAMING THE PEOPLE.

It is SICKENING.



lets not blame anyone!!! it doesnt do any good, instead lets find solutions, were fighting mother nature here, not ourselves, they are not sitting on their butt , they are trying
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#18 Postby fci » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:43 pm

HurriCat wrote:We here in Orlando are told - over and over - every single time that a storm even looks like it's going to get named - to prepare a FIVE DAY SUPPLY of food and water for each member of the household. They even remind us about having food and supplies for our PETS, too.

The reason they give is that RESPONSE TIMES AFTER SUCH AN EVENT MAY BE LIMITED AND DELAYED.

It is our responsibility as individuals, parents, neighbors and friends to prepare.

Save the "no money" justifications. Canned foods and bottled water are some of the cheapest items you can get.

Save the "they lost everything" comments. If THEY themselves are in one piece, then why not a dufflebag or even a pillowcase with supplies in them? Are we to believe that ALL of these multitudes were thrown out into the storm, their houses and supplies all ripped away? NO. The floods came after the winds and rain.

The Red Cross is calling this their biggest response ever. It has to be about the same for FEMA? AS BIG AS IT IS, we are now seeing - on the FOURTH day - large numbers of troops, trucks and supplies "finally" :roll: getting around.

Again, our regular - and common sense - instructions are to prepare to go five days on our own. We and our children won't be "starving" and "justifiably" looting after less than 48 hours.

How much more is this notion just common sense for a city below sea-level?


Hurricat:
Probably a politically incorrect post of yours and totally true.
As someone else responded, personal responsibility seems to have disappeared.

I do feel bad for New Orleanians (sp?) that are being embarrassed by the few (relatively speaking) thugs who are giving their city a bad name.

There are a lot of really good people from the area.
Unfortunatly there are also quite a few not good people who live there.
I remmebr many years ago visiting and being warned about a lot of "bad people".
Although not unlike many urban, downtown areas....
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#19 Postby artist » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:43 pm

Ivanhater - i so agree - it is sad to see the state of our country and politicians. wish all the rumors and lies would stop. instead of everyone coming together it seems many are trying to find a way to divide us further. The concentration should be on helping these people and that is it.
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#20 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:45 pm

artist wrote:Ivanhater - i so agree - it is sad to see the state of our country and politicians. wish all the rumors and lies would stop. instead of everyone coming together it seems many are trying to find a way to divide us further. The concentration should be on helping these people and that is it.


couldnt of said it better myself
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