I'm Moving from New Orleans!

[sunny]

you are so right. Now there in Houston looking for handouts. Memo: to NO people Texas is not a welfare state. You got your 2k now back to work.

Is that note for all NO people? The Shell people are already coming back from Houston - where they were working.[/quote]


NO people= people who will not return to rebuild their city that they were living off of.[/quote]

That's fair - and what's more is I agree.

[ROCK]

If I were looking for work I'd be in new orleans in a heartbeat. IMHO it's truly sad that we have capable people on welfare when there's so much work to be done on the Gulf Coast.

Unfortunately some of those people don't know any better. They're government bred, government born and government raised.

Yep, raise someone to be on welfare and welfare they will stay. Sad but true. IMO, I blame the state officials that have allowed this to happen.

[TSmith274]

We need a cat 5 standard, coupled with coastal restoration to truly give New Orleans a chance to thrive.

Personally, I don't believe that standard can be brought into existence. I mean, what truly defines a "CAT 5 STANDARD"? Perhaps if the levees are built to a height of 50+ feet, with extreme reinforcement, around the entire area of potential impact, then a cat 5 storm might be survivable - at least in terms of surge. But anything less is just building to an unknown impact of nature, none of which has ever been experienced before.

What exactly is a "cat 5 standard"?

The money needed to study such a system was appropriated. In fact, the consolidation of our levee boards was tied to this money. Had we not consolidated, we would have lost out on this money. So, I'm sure we'll find out what a cat 5 system would look like as soon as this study is completed by the Corps of Engineers. It's going to include a real effort to restore our coast, because no levee system alone can ensure our survival. It would be an overall systematic approach, working with nature instead of against it... at least that's what they're saying. Three stages of redundant flood protection, coupled with compartmentalizing areas of the city... much like the compartmental way that an ocean-going vessel is constructed. One area of a ship springs a leak... that area is sealed off, and the ship stays afloat. Same theory with New Orleans... using existing railroad lines and highways as makeshift levees. It was part of the Bring New Orleans Back comission's presentation. It was very interesting... it's worth a look. Would it protect against a cat 5 storm? I don't think anyone really knows. But, anything is an improvement over the system we have now. Our current system is a horrible design... not just because the failed, but because there are areas of our system that act more as funnels for floodwater, such as the funnel near the MRGO and the Industrial canal. An outer ring, gently curved would serve to deflect the surge rather than catch it... to give the water a place to go, rather than trapping it and taking the brunt. There are many interesting ideas in this report... you can google it, and check out the plans put forth by the BNOB comission report.

[Audrey2Katrina]

If I were looking for work I'd be in new orleans in a heartbeat. IMHO it's truly sad that we have capable people on welfare when there's so much work to be done on the Gulf Coast.

Sad part is they KNOW we need help but yet choose to remain on welfare.

Unfortunately there are those who feel something is owed to them. Don't know where they got that idea. There are those of us who came back to work, to live. And many of the people who came back lost everything!!

There was a councilman here who made the statement not to come back unless you were willing to work. He caught hell for that. Very sad IMO. But then I guess I'm just one of those who would rather be able to hold my head up knowing I've done what I could to help myself.

Extremely well put, Sunny!

A2K

[Audrey2Katrina]

If I were looking for work I'd be in new orleans in a heartbeat. IMHO it's truly sad that we have capable people on welfare when there's so much work to be done on the Gulf Coast.

Unfortunately some of those people don't know any better. They're government bred, government born and government raised.

Ain't it the truth?? *Sigh*

A2K

[Ixolib]

We need a cat 5 standard, coupled with coastal restoration to truly give New Orleans a chance to thrive.

Personally, I don't believe that standard can be brought into existence. I mean, what truly defines a "CAT 5 STANDARD"? Perhaps if the levees are built to a height of 50+ feet, with extreme reinforcement, around the entire area of potential impact, then a cat 5 storm might be survivable - at least in terms of surge. But anything less is just building to an unknown impact of nature, none of which has ever been experienced before.

What exactly is a "cat 5 standard"?

The money needed to study such a system was appropriated. In fact, the consolidation of our levee boards was tied to this money. Had we not consolidated, we would have lost out on this money. So, I'm sure we'll find out what a cat 5 system would look like as soon as this study is completed by the Corps of Engineers. It's going to include a real effort to restore our coast, because no levee system alone can ensure our survival. It would be an overall systematic approach, working with nature instead of against it... at least that's what they're saying. Three stages of redundant flood protection, coupled with compartmentalizing areas of the city... much like the compartmental way that an ocean-going vessel is constructed. One area of a ship springs a leak... that area is sealed off, and the ship stays afloat. Same theory with New Orleans... using existing railroad lines and highways as makeshift levees. It was part of the Bring New Orleans Back comission's presentation. It was very interesting... it's worth a look. Would it protect against a cat 5 storm? I don't think anyone really knows. But, anything is an improvement over the system we have now. Our current system is a horrible design... not just because the failed, but because there are areas of our system that act more as funnels for floodwater, such as the funnel near the MRGO and the Industrial canal. An outer ring, gently curved would serve to deflect the surge rather than catch it... to give the water a place to go, rather than trapping it and taking the brunt. There are many interesting ideas in this report... you can google it, and check out the plans put forth by the BNOB comission report.

Thanks for the Google advice, T. Speaking of the MRGO, rumor has/had it that it was going to be permanently closed. What's the status there?

[Audrey2Katrina]

Thanks for the Google advice, T. Speaking of the MRGO, rumor has/had it that it was going to be permanently closed. What's the status there?

God, I HOPE so!

A2K

[Sean in New Orleans]

You want to know what is really great...there is a local outcry and now, it's starting from the federal level. They are going to have to work, now, to live in public housing. There is a law on the books that says you must work 40 hours a week to live in public housing. It appears they are going to start enforcing that in New Orleans, pretty soon. Look, even the public officials know the crime and drugs that come out of those projects and they are going to fight it tooth and nail if these people think they will be allowed to bring it back into this city.

[ROCK]

You want to know what is really great...there is a local outcry and now, it's starting from the federal level. They are going to have to work, now, to live in public housing. There is a law on the books that says you must work 40 hours a week to live in public housing. It appears they are going to start enforcing that in New Orleans, pretty soon. Look, even the public officials know the crime and drugs that come out of those projects and they are going to fight it tooth and nail if these people think they will be allowed to bring it back into this city.

good for you guys. Now if you could only get the people to come back....

[TSmith274]

You want to know what is really great...there is a local outcry and now, it's starting from the federal level. They are going to have to work, now, to live in public housing. There is a law on the books that says you must work 40 hours a week to live in public housing. It appears they are going to start enforcing that in New Orleans, pretty soon. Look, even the public officials know the crime and drugs that come out of those projects and they are going to fight it tooth and nail if these people think they will be allowed to bring it back into this city.

Hah... yeah I saw that. The HUD director was pretty adamant about it too. I never thought I'd see the day.

As for the MRGO, there are currently no plans to close it, but it is being pursued aggressively by local officials. Dredging of the MRGO has been halted until more... you guessed it... studies are done. It's a wait and see on the MRGO.

[Ixolib]

You want to know what is really great...there is a local outcry and now, it's starting from the federal level. They are going to have to work, now, to live in public housing. There is a law on the books that says you must work 40 hours a week to live in public housing. It appears they are going to start enforcing that in New Orleans, pretty soon. Look, even the public officials know the crime and drugs that come out of those projects and they are going to fight it tooth and nail if these people think they will be allowed to bring it back into this city.

Is the Desire Housing Project still there, and if so, did it go under?? Took a wrong turn one day (understatement) in N.O. and ended up right smack in the middle ot that area. Kinda interesting, to say the least...

[sunny]

You want to know what is really great...there is a local outcry and now, it's starting from the federal level. They are going to have to work, now, to live in public housing. There is a law on the books that says you must work 40 hours a week to live in public housing. It appears they are going to start enforcing that in New Orleans, pretty soon. Look, even the public officials know the crime and drugs that come out of those projects and they are going to fight it tooth and nail if these people think they will be allowed to bring it back into this city.

good for you guys. Now if you could only get the people to come back....

dey don't wanna do dat!

All joking aside, those of us that want to work and help bebuild our city, the majority are already back. But as we've said before, you have those who think they should be given a free ride. If that free ride is over here, they'll look for another place to get that free ride.

[CajunMama]

Back to micktooth and his move....I wish you and your family the best of luck.

[Ixolib]

Back to micktooth and his move....I wish you and your family the best of luck.

Good point...

But it is interesting how a certain post can lead off in so many different directions in the blink of an eye!!

[skysummit]

There must be THOUSANDS of jobs available now. Most of them also have a bonus from 100 - 500 a week, to a couple thousand dollar signing bonus. It's nuts! If these people who come back want to continue living off the state and off of those who the feel "owe" them, LEAVE...just leave. Stores and businesses are still not open regular hours because they don't have enough workers.

Anyone looking for work??? Come to south La.!

[Camille_2_Katrina]

We, my wife, 2 year old daugter... and one on the way (baby boy) are going
to hang in there... Still no ac or heat in the office building....
but we are up and running.... we're here to stay... and help.

[Camille_2_Katrina]

Anyone looking for work??? Come to south La.!

or south mississippi...

[Dionne]

There is absolutely no reason to be in south Mississippi or Louisiana and NOT be working. Work is everywhere. Unfortunately alot of the workers arriving cannot pass a drug screen. So guys......get sober for a month before you come here.

[sunny]

Dionne, have you guys heard anything about MS13 being in south Mississippi? They have arrested quite a few of them here

[Audrey2Katrina]

Now that's a scary thought... but to tell the truthe, ever since the influx of migrant workers, I've got to say the possibility has entered my mind. Oh, well, Lord knows New Orleans has had more than it's dealings with the underworld what with it's Mafioso connects et. al.

A2K