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#21 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:19 pm

Wishing I were more schooled in the circumstances of that Saturday & Sunday in N.O., what WERE the reasons for the evacuation being delayed? I mean, Nagin must have been reacting in the way he did for some reason...


Well, FWIW, among other rumors there was the story that a.) Nagin et. al. had been relying all along on that sooner eastward tack that just didn't happen, and b.) there were concerns that the hotel/motel/tourism industry would hold him accountable for major losses in the event it was a non-event and c.) the imbroglio over the mass exodus for a similar storm in the form of Ivan the previous year that resulted in huge numbers of people who, instead of being grateful for having been spared, were extremely upset that they'd evacuated for nothing.

None of which excuses a lot of action that should have been taken--but just some of what the other side claims FYI. BTW the tapes of Blanco on the morning of the 29th assuring someone (the feds?) that the levees had not been breached is what befuddles me! :?: All of which goes to show that this thing was a royal mess up from top to bottom.

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#22 Postby Lindaloo » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:55 pm

There are 9 people running against Nagin. Hopefully one of them will be able to get him out. If you can't rely on your leader to make a darn decision in a time of crisis for fear of being sued, then it is time to go! He was more worried about being sued than saving lives.

Blanco is another example of poor leadership. She jumped in there too quick to blame the government when in fact she should have made sure that people got out!

Mississippi did not have this problem!! After Georges, all shelters that we used south of Hwy 90 were no longer shelters. Everything was moved north of 10. Second, senior citizens who were not able to get out were transported out or into a shelter 36 hours before the warning was issued.
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#23 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:05 pm

No question Mississippi was far more prepared (as preparation for something like Katrina can go) than was Louisiana.

Regarding the mayoral race... personally I think he's still got a good chance to win re-election. I'll make a prediction that the runoff will be between himself and Mitch Landrieu (name-recognition here), with the runoff almost a dead-heat.

Whichever wins, I'll be praying they do a LOT more the next time a storm anywhere near this potential for destruction heads our way.

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#24 Postby vbhoutex » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:20 pm

He has been in Houston campaigning amoung the evacuees that now live here!!! I think the man is desperate. I must stop I am getting political.
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#25 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:51 pm

vbhoutex wrote:He has been in Houston campaigning amoung the evacuees that now live here!!! I think the man is desperate. I must stop I am getting political.


Which is precisely why I say he'll make the runoff! No way any 1 will make it in the first primary among 9 contenders.. and... okay... I'll stop too; and to keep it from being strictly political.. for all involved's sake, I hope Katrina has taught him a valuable lesson....

and leave it at that!

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#26 Postby vbhoutex » Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:12 pm

And what do I hear on the news tonight? Mitch Landrieu will be here soon too campaigning. Sounds like a situation frought with chances for major fraud(doesn't matter who the players are).
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#27 Postby Lindaloo » Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:38 pm

I highly doubt Nagin will make the runoff. He is not too popular anymore! There is also a lady in the mix who just may give them a run for their money. :wink:

Them being over there campaigning just further proves that it is not just whites who can be prejudice.
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#28 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:52 pm

Lindaloo wrote:I highly doubt Nagin will make the runoff. He is not too popular anymore! There is also a lady in the mix who just may give them a run for their money. :wink:

Them being over there campaigning just further proves that it is not just whites who can be prejudice.


The woman you're talking about is probably Peggy Wilson. She's pretty sharp; but I seriously doubt she'll make the cut. I'm sticking with my original prediction that it'll be a Landrieu-Nagin runoff for reasons vb hinted at in his last post :wink:

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#29 Postby HurryKane » Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:43 am

I heard last night that there are now 23 candidates for the mayoral position, and one has an arrest warrant out for her. :D Love 'dem Louisiana politics.

Are they making provisions for the people in Houston to vote in absentia? I didn't think they were.
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#30 Postby vbhoutex » Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:07 am

HurryKane wrote:I heard last night that there are now 23 candidates for the mayoral position, and one has an arrest warrant out for her. :D Love 'dem Louisiana politics.

Are they making provisions for the people in Houston to vote in absentia? I didn't think they were.


I have wondered. Obviously something is expected, either in abstentia voting or something since more than one is coming here to campaign.
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#31 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:18 pm

HurryKane wrote:I heard last night that there are now 23 candidates for the mayoral position, and one has an arrest warrant out for her. :D Love 'dem Louisiana politics.

Are they making provisions for the people in Houston to vote in absentia? I didn't think they were.


I think they are--sort of a safety-valve, as a lot of those folk have no intention of ever coming back; but they can assure the forces that be of the results they intend to get. JMO ... but it's based on a lot of experience! :wink:

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#32 Postby ROCK » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:40 pm

vbhoutex wrote:He has been in Houston campaigning amoung the evacuees that now live here!!! I think the man is desperate. I must stop I am getting political.



He is desperate and hopefully his transparency will show. IMO, the man should give up on politics. He's already showed he can't handle the pressure. If NO re-elects him into office again, you won't see me donating jack the next time the city is wiped out.
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#33 Postby Pearl River » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:46 pm

I heard last night that there are now 23 candidates for the mayoral position, and one has an arrest warrant out for her. Love 'dem Louisiana politics.


She no longer has the warrant out for her.

Lindaloo wrote:
I highly doubt Nagin will make the runoff. He is not too popular anymore! There is also a lady in the mix who just may give them a run for their money.

Them being over there campaigning just further proves that it is not just whites who can be prejudice.


The woman you're talking about is probably Peggy Wilson. She's pretty sharp; but I seriously doubt she'll make the cut. I'm sticking with my original prediction that it'll be a Landrieu-Nagin runoff for reasons vb hinted at in his last post

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Right now Peggy Wilson is far behind in the race according to the polls.

After Georges, all shelters that we used south of Hwy 90 were no longer shelters. Everything was moved north of 10. Second, senior citizens who were not able to get out were transported out or into a shelter 36 hours before the warning was issued.


That's why there are no shelters south of I-12 around here. According to the State OEP Evacuation Plan, the State Dept. of transportation is responsible for evacuating the elderly and infirmed. They blew it.

The last election, Nagin had overwhelming support from the whites and was thought of as an Uncle Tom by the blacks. Now, the tide is turned (no pun intended) and the blacks will not want a white mayor. C'est la vie.[/b]
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#34 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:47 pm

ROCK wrote:
vbhoutex wrote:He has been in Houston campaigning amoung the evacuees that now live here!!! I think the man is desperate. I must stop I am getting political.



He is desperate and hopefully his transparency will show. IMO, the man should give up on politics. He's already showed he can't handle the pressure. If NO re-elects him into office again, you won't see me donating jack the next time the city is wiped out.


Sad to say, but IF the election were only among the folk who had the wherewithal to get back into the city or at least in its immediate environs were to be the only vote tallied, he'd be a gone pecan. It's the potential for fraud Vb alluded to that I feel will get him into the runoff--which will assure that I won't be investing in prospects of a return to the city proper any time soon. If they can't give us strong leadership and competent reliable protection--I'll remain where it's relatively safer.

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#35 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:38 pm

As an outsider looking in; Ray Nagin certainly does come across as being a few cards short of a full deck. Of course everyone else in the government (at all levels) came across the same way in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
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#36 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:29 pm

Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:As an outsider looking in; Ray Nagin certainly does come across as being a few cards short of a full deck. Of course everyone else in the government (at all levels) came across the same way in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.


Doubtless a valid statement; but the jokers weren't among them--they were in abundance.

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#37 Postby vbhoutex » Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:42 pm

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HurryKane wrote:I heard last night that there are now 23 candidates for the mayoral position, and one has an arrest warrant out for her. :D Love 'dem Louisiana politics.

Are they making provisions for the people in Houston to vote in absentia? I didn't think they were.


I have wondered. Obviously something is expected, either in abstentia voting or something since more than one is coming here to campaign.


Got that question answered today when one of our stations showed the phone number to call to register to vote in the NO election.
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#38 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:55 pm

vbhoutex wrote:Got that question answered today when one of our stations showed the phone number to call to register to vote in the NO election.


to quote CCC: "I see a bad moon a risin'!" :comment:

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#39 Postby Pearl River » Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:49 pm

vbhoutex wrote:

Got that question answered today when one of our stations showed the phone number to call to register to vote in the NO election.


to quote CCC: "I see a bad moon a risin'!"

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That could be a "young" bad "moon" a risin. ( as in Landrieu ) :A: :A:
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#40 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:09 pm

That could be a "young" bad "moon" a risin. ( as in Landrieu )


Well, wasn't his dad/uncle/whateva! called "Moon" ???

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