$10 Billion in insured damage from Wilma

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$10 Billion in insured damage from Wilma

#1 Postby zlaxier » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:56 pm

According to this article, Wilma did $10 billion of insured damage. And there was a ton of uninsured damage because deductibles for hurricane damage are at a minimum 2% of the insured value in homeowner's policies.

So Wilma hits Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach from the wrong side of the state as a Cat 1 in most places with some areas getting Cat 2 and it causes probably up to $20 billion in total damage.

South Florida is in a world of hurt if a Katrina sized Cat 5 hits anywhere in the 3 County region.

INSURANCE
State hurricane model hits Wilma losses within 2%
The estimate from the state's public hurricane computer model for Hurricane Wilma losses came very close to the actual residential losses.
BY BEATRICE E. GARCIA

bgarcia@MiamiHerald.com

A state-financed public hurricane model used by the Office of Insurance Regulation to estimate storm losses came close to actual losses from Hurricane Wilma than many private hurricane models.

The computer model can help gauge hurricane damage and insured losses for state officials and consumers. Its estimate of losses from Hurricane Wilma -- $7.04 billion -- was within 2 percent of the actual $6.9 billion in residential losses from the storm.

Total insured losses from the storm are close to $10 billion, including auto and commercial property damage.

Private models provided estimates ranging from $2 billion to $12 billion last October. Insurers often use these private models to estimate future losses and form the basis of their rate increase petitions to regulators.

''We were happy to see the [public model] was calibrated so closely'' to actual losses, said David Foy, chief of staff for the state's Office of Insurance Regulation. The model's estimate was delivered to the state Legislature last November.

A hurricane model is a series of assumptions based on tens of thousands of pieces of data: wind speeds, housing stock, terrain, tree cover, value of insured property, storm-mitigation efforts, building codes, population density and so on. It takes a fair amount of science and computer power to mold all these variables into plausible scenarios and test their probabilities.

This public hurricane model, completed last summer by a team of researchers, meteorologists, actuaries and computer specialists led by Florida International University, estimates storm damage to residential property throughout the state and can assess risk and potential losses right down to a ZIP Code. The model, the first developed by a state, cost $2.7 million to build.

For now, OIR is using the public model to test rate requests from insurers for homeowners policies.

Insurance regulators are asking lawmakers for money to expand the model to include data on commercial and residential buildings such as condo buildings and apartments. Foy said it will take two years to add the data and test the revised model, if OIR gets the funding.

There are several private hurricane models that insurance companies can use to test their own forecasts of damage based on their own past losses and future expectations.

But these models don't reveal the data or the assumptions used to crunch the numbers.

The insurance reform bill passed last year precludes insurance companies basing rate hike requests on private hurricane models unless they disclose the data used. Insurers have been unwilling to do that, said Foy.

Sam Miller with the Florida Insurance Council, an industry trade group, said the public model should be vetted by the Florida Commission on Hurricane Loss Projection Methodology, which is required to review the private models insurers use.
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#2 Postby weatherwoman132 » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:59 pm

yeah, lol. it was HORRIBLE here.
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#3 Postby zlaxier » Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:03 pm

There was another article today about Wilma's strength. This dude says it landfalled not at 120mph but at 105mph.

Hurricane Wilma weaker than thought, expert says
By Robert P. King

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Thursday, April 13, 2006

UPDATED: 6:50 p.m. April 13, 2006

ORLANDO — Hurricane Wilma's winds were even weaker than federal meteorologists thought, one expert told colleagues Thursday at the National Hurricane Conference.

While the National Hurricane Center says Wilma was a 121 mph Category 3 storm when it came ashore in southwest Florida on Oct. 24, engineer Peter Vickery estimates it was no more than a Category 2 storm at landfall, with sustained winds of 105 mph.

Similarly, the hurricane center has reported that populated parts of South Florida, including portions of Palm Beach County, felt sustained Category 2 winds as high as 110 mph.

But Vickery, from the company Applied Research Associates, estimates that most of Palm Beach County felt sustained winds no higher than 90 mph. And the hardest-hit region, around Boca Raton and Delray Beach, felt no more than 100 mph.

Vickery, speaking at the National Hurricane Conference, based his estimates on a combination of various agencies' wind measurements and his own computer modeling, which takes into account such factors as buildings and terrain. He said he's not disputing the widespread roof and building damage from Wilma that caused many residents -- especially those in the Glades -- to believe they had suffered a major hurricane.

"You do get oddball gusts. That happens," he said. "And you do get crappy construction. That happens."

Sustained wind speeds are averaged over one minute. Gusts last at least three seconds (and are the wind speeds on which building codes are based).

Residents in Florida, Louisiana and elsewhere have reacted angrily to any suggestion that their damage resulted from less-than-catastrophic hurricane winds. Major storms are Category 3 or higher with sustained winds starting at 111 mph. But experts often counter that even a minimal hurricane deserves respect and say that after-the-fact downgradings point out how vulnerable we remain.

"Don't think of this as good news," said Kurt Gurley, an assistant professor of civil and coastal engineering at the University of Florida, during a separate presentation at the conference. "All the billions of dollars in insured losses from the last few years are due to wind speeds lower than we thought they were."

In general, Vickery said, his research suggests that the hurricane center typically overestimates storms' strength at landfall. That's partly because many wind gauges, especially those at urban airports, are surrounded by buildings and other things that block wind.

But hurricane center senior specialist Richard Pasch said he stands by the agency's estimates of Wilma's wind speeds, which were based on data from land-based gauges, aircraft measurements taken while the storm was over water, and radar readings of wind speeds 5,000 feet in the air.

Meteorologists have to convert those aircraft and radar wind readings to their equivalent wind speeds near the ground.

Wind estimates can be tricky, said Pasch, an author of the hurricane center's official report on Wilma. "Strongest winds tend to occur in isolated spots. ... It's almost never measured."

However, he said isn't familiar with Vickery's company and can't judge the specifics of its studies.

"I'm sure they're based on some good science," he said. "I'm just telling you that our method of estimating intensity is based on looking at all the available observations."

Vickery said measurements confirm the widespread perception that Wilma's "back end" caused the most damage. He said Wilma remained a Category 2 storm during its entire passage over Florida, rather than weakening significantly over land as most hurricanes do.

"That was an odd storm," he said.

Similarly, Vickery estimates Hurricane Rita was a 105 mph Category 2 storm when it landed near the Texas-Louisiana border in September, while the hurricane center says it was a Category 3. He also believes Katrina was weaker than the hurricane center says -- landing in southeastern Louisiana at the low end of Category 3, then weakening to Category 2 by the time it made a second landfall near the Louisiana-Mississippi border.
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#4 Postby windycity » Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:34 pm

Well this is a wake up call people. We all need to really prepare this year, get your house ready to face what could be a ulgy season. I dont think we have seen anything yet, and i hope im wrong.
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#5 Postby JtSmarts » Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:52 pm

10 billion equals 20 billion overall, enough to put Wilma at #3 on the Most Expensive Storms List behind only Katrina and Andrew.
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#6 Postby Ixolib » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:07 pm

Of course, the value of real estate/real property must also be taken into consideration in looking at these numbers.

As I've used in comparison before, the cost to replace one pool enclosure in the high-dollar neighborhoods of S. FL. is potentially equal to (or greater than!!) the cost of my entire home here in Biloxi.

Put another way, the replacement costs for $1 million of real property in S. FL. would be equal to about $250K here in S. MS., give or take a few thousand...
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#7 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:42 pm

There are no structures to damage where the cat 3 winds were

Nobody received cat 3 winds, unless a croc is posting here
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#8 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:56 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:There are no structures to damage where the cat 3 winds were

Nobody received cat 3 winds, unless a croc is posting here


No but the data received from dropsones and air flights are in line with a 115-120 mph storm in the case of Wilma at landfall.
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#9 Postby gatorcane » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:57 pm

There are no structures to damage where the cat 3 winds were

Nobody received cat 3 winds, unless a croc is posting here


this is true - and I think some people just don't realize that Wilma wasn't even major

But I can agrue that Wilma was enhanced by the strong trough and land friction so we saw CAT 3 "burst" as this article from NHC describes:

Subject : C2) Doesn't the friction over land kill tropical cyclones?
(Parts of this section are written by Sim Aberson.)

No. During landfall, the increased friction over land acts - somewhat contradictory - to both decrease the sustained winds and also to increase the gusts felt at the surface (Powell and Houston 1996). The sustained (1 min or longer average) winds are reduced because of the dampening effect of larger roughness over land (i.e. bushes, trees and houses over land versus a relatively smooth ocean). The gusts are stronger because turbulence increases and acts to bring faster winds down to the surface in short (a few seconds) bursts.

However, after just a few hours, a tropical cyclone over land will begin to weaken rapidly - not because of friction - but because the storm lacks the the moisture and heat sources that the ocean provided. This depletion of moisture and heat hurts the tropical cyclone's ability to produce thunderstorms near the storm center. Without this convection,the storm rapidly fills.

An early numerical simulation (Tuleya and Kurihara 1978) had shown that a hurricane making landfall over a very moist region (i.e. mainly swamp) so that surface evaporation is unchanged, intensification may result. However, a more recent study (Tuleya 1994) that has a more realistic treatment of surface conditions found that even over a swampy area a hurricane would weaken because of limited heat sources. Indeed, nature conducted this experiment during Andrew as the hurricane traversed the very wet Everglades, Big Cypress and Corkscrew Swamp areas of southwest Florida. Andrew weakened dramatically: peak winds decreased about 33% and the sea level pressure in the eye filled 19 mb (Powell and Houston 1996).
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#10 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:50 pm

I do not dispute the fact that Wilma made landfall as a major, nor do I dispute the fact that a track 5 miles to the south results in at least 10,000 dead at Key West (remember, the eyewall only missed Key West by 5 miles). I do disagree that many areas received cat 2 winds. The engineering study is correct in that regard, but their assessment of landfall intensity is flawed since nobody lives where the cat 3 winds hit (then again, what does it matter since we're arguing over what a few crocs received)
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#11 Postby SouthFloridawx » Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:34 am

I don't think south east florida received cat 3 winds. Cat one winds to low cat 2.
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#12 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:38 am

In this could of easly been Alpha if the nhc would of upgraded that one system as was. So a greek letter would of been needing retirment.
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#13 Postby weatherwoman132 » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:52 am

wow. if it was only cat one or 2 winds here on the east coast, I wouldnt want to experiment again with a category 4 or 5....I couldnt even imagine, at strike on the east coast, or west coast....the east coast of s. florida got worse than the west in wilma.
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#14 Postby DanKellFla » Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:31 pm

There are no structures to damage where the cat 3 winds were

Nobody received cat 3 winds, unless a croc is posting here


No crocs around here, but a lot of happy Gator basketball fans!!

Now, back to to the topic at hand.

How wide was the hurricane force windfield when Katrina was a Cat 5? I thought that the stronger the storm the smaller the highest strength windfield is. I was 40 miles away from the eye of Andrew and it was just a bad storm. My mom was even closer and all that happened was falling tree and a few hours without electricity. Personally, I can't imagine a Cat 5 affecting all three counties equally. But, if you recall, Andrew went south of the most expensive and densely populated areas. If Andrew went down Brickle Ave. the monetary damages would have been a lot more. In any case, a Cat 4 or 5 would be pretty bad. Current code just calls for structures to survive Cat 3 winds. And a lot of older buildings won't stand a chance. In a strange way, this recent spat of "weaker" storms might turn out to be helpful if we get a major storm. I know that with Wilma, I had very little vegatation damage because I had very little vegatation left.
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