Hurricane Ernesto - Florida Impact *unnoficial* (inc. gfx)

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#1 Postby TampaFl » Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:55 am

Great job Kevin. Imagine my shock :eek: when I awoke this morning with the change in track. WOW!. All should start reviewing there hurricane plans now and be prepared to respond come Tuesday - Thursday. If this track were to verify, this is the worst case senario for West Central Florida - a a storm moving right up the West Coast.


Why do these things happen just before/during the Labor Day Holiday??


Robert 8-)
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#2 Postby Jevo » Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:56 am

very nice map Kevin.. great explinations.... looks like your track is a tad West
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Nicely done

#3 Postby scogor » Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:40 am

Kevin, nice job! I'm visiting family in Ohio but returning to Sarasota tonight to and will kick into high preparation mode. This could be the "buzzsaw" we've long feared here on the west coast of Florida.
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#4 Postby LCfromFL » Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:46 am

Do I stay or do I go? Ugh - talk about timing! When I woke up this morning and saw the new track, that old song from the 80's popped into my head.

I have a business trip planned for Tuesday - Thursday of this week (going to Little Rock, AR). It'd be a REAL pain to reschedule this - but there's no way I'd leave my family (2 children, husband, parents next door - dad is a cancer patient undergoing chemo) if we're looking like Ernesto is going to come visit. So I've got today and tomorrow to decide what to do. I live in NE FL - near Jacksonville. Normally we get rain rain and more rain (with a little wind action) from these 'backdoor' storms. BUT it's the risk of tornados and such that worry me the most. Two years ago (in the year of Charley, Jeanne and Francis), the B storm (a topical storm) spawned a tornado about 5 miles from my house.

So, the waiting game continues. Will the track change again? Move Eastward? Westward?

Do I stay or do I go? <humming that song>
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#5 Postby Windsong » Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:43 am

Kevin,

I am very impressed with your assessment and your maps. The lay out is very readable and addresses the specific counties forecasted to be affected. I really like that.

Good work!

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#6 Postby chris_fit » Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:45 am

Great GFX! Terrible track. Thats a bad scenerio for the west FL coast!! (for personal reasons :) ) Eak!
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#7 Postby BOPPA » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:05 am

Kevin - does your Dad still work for the Collier County Emergency
Management (I think that is what I remember) ??

You gave some really good information a few times via his information
from there?

This is really NOT what I wanted to wake up to this morning, and am
certainly hoping for another change in direction over the next few days.
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#8 Postby KBBOCA » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:51 am

Kevin, I was glad to see you posting your forecasts again. Your maps are terrific, as are your county by county summaries. Nice work, you add a lot to this forum.

I think you were especially wise to remind folks not to rule out a Charley scenario with a sudden shift in landfall location or intensity. This storm in particular seems particularly unpredictable.

Stay safe.
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#9 Postby MetroMike » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:05 am

Great summary even though I am now in the crosshairs. I am suffering deja-vu of August 2004 with Charlie all over again.
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#10 Postby JonathanBelles » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:14 am

love the map...hate the track.
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#11 Postby Sanibel » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:19 am

Hate to put it this way - but that track is a great storm rider track for Sanibel if you want to experience a near miss.
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#12 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:23 am

i expect a slightly more eastward track and the windfield to be larger.
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#13 Postby T'Bonz » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:30 am

TampaFl wrote:Great job Kevin. Imagine my shock :eek: when I awoke this morning with the change in track. WOW!.


Heh. Pretty much my thoughts. Turned on the TV and went, "Oh $*#@!"
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#14 Postby furluvcats » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:18 am

Yea, the tornadoes are the scariest part for me...all of you in FL be careful....

Kevin...excellent post! Very clear and concise and easy for me to understand...way to go!!
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#15 Postby chris_fit » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:24 am

TWC, A news channel, or someone should hire you to do their graphics. It beats anything out there. Keep it up.
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#16 Postby jdray » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:57 am

Kevin_Cho wrote:Not to downplay the NE FL area, but atm I think it's one of the safe areas of FL to be in if you had the choice. It'd be just the problem of getting out aftewards as there could be power outages and no flights in the area.


NE Florida would be "safe" from surge, but inland wind events are not fun either.

I had 50-60 mph winds with higher gusts from both Frances and Jeanne.
Lost power for a week, phone for a week as well.
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#17 Postby the_winds_that_sheared_me » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:08 pm

jdray wrote:
Kevin_Cho wrote:Not to downplay the NE FL area, but atm I think it's one of the safe areas of FL to be in if you had the choice. It'd be just the problem of getting out aftewards as there could be power outages and no flights in the area.


NE Florida would be "safe" from surge, but inland wind events are not fun either.

I had 50-60 mph winds with higher gusts from both Frances and Jeanne.
Lost power for a week, phone for a week as well.


Yes but frances and Jeanne were atlantic storms, this is from the gulf and I would expect just some rain without all the high winds. That should be limited to the immediate gulf coast I would think
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#18 Postby jdray » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:23 pm

nope.

Most of Jacksonville impacting TCs come from the big bend area.

One in 1896 was still a Cat 3 just west of Jacksonville.
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atl ... /track.gif

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea/history/index.html
This accelerating and very asymmetrical storm moved inland north of Cedar Key and progressed northward across Lake City, Fl. and Jesup, Ga. The storm was moving rapidly ahead of a large Polar air outbreak and has already been identified as major in the southeast Gulf of Mexico. Period reports indicate this was a major event over land also. After the eye passed over Lake City the winds there were estimated to be 150 mph Endnote , although that value must be used with extreme caution. Tremendous destruction occurred in a 50 mile wide swath from Cedar Key to Savannah, with most of the damage occurring east of the center. The center appears to have made landfall near the mouth of the Suwannee River between 6 and 6:30 AM (Partagas brings the center onshore to early) and passed across Fort White at 7:30 AM and Lake City around 8 AM . The center was later identified at Guyton, Ga, west of Savannah, between 12:30 and 12:45 PM. This is an approximate track distance of 215 statute miles and estimating a 7 hour transit time yields a forward motion slightly in excess of 30 mph.

Maximum wind speeds at downtown Jacksonville were southeast at 70 mph (60 statute miles east of the storm center). Period accounts of the 2 October 1898 hurricane indicate the 1896 hurricane had a higher wind velocity at Darien, along the Georgia coast. Endnote Based on a best fit hurricane using the SLOSH model, a central pressure of 960 mb with a 15 nm Radius of Maximum Wind is indicated at landfall. This central pressure suggest a 115 mph from the Gulf of Mexico wind-pressure relationship (Landsea et. al. 2002). With a smaller than usual RMW for this central pressure and latitude and a rapid forward motion (30-35 mph at landfall), winds are estimated at 125 mph at landfall. landfall. A 963 mb central pressure estimated via Ho's methodology for 12Z on the 29th suggests 106 mph from the subtropical wind-pressure relationship

- 115 mph chosen due to small RMW and fast speed of motion although the hurricane is overland. Period reports of damage to structures and forested areas are consistent with this estimate, suggesting this was a major hurricane inland over northeast florida. Surface analysis suggest an outer pressure of 1014 to 1016 mb would be appropriate for this event.


Dont think that one coming in from the gulf is any weaker than an east coast hit.
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