With all this rain in California

[Gtmalacd]

would this not signify an EL NINO event?

[weatherwoman132]

we need the rain!!

[feederband]

Rain ...What is that? I remember reading about that once...

[DoctorHurricane2003]

You are going the wrong way with your logic, gtma. You don't look at an effect that is caused by many things and say "well this must be because there is x occurring." You look directly at the cause.

[HouTXmetro]

You are going the wrong way with your logic, gtma. You don't look at an effect that is caused by many things and say "well this must be because there is x occurring." You look directly at the cause.

Whats the cause?

[DoctorHurricane2003]

It could be many things. I'm not an expert on California climatology, but a guess of mine would say it has something to do with abnormal water temperatures in the north pacific ocean around 30-45 N.

[weatherlover427]

It hasn't been raining too much here. The LA basin is still about 3 inches below average for this time of year.

[SouthFloridawx]

Rain ...What is that? I remember reading about that once...

It is this clear liquid stuff that falls from the sky. I have heard of this once in a book I read a long time ago. In fact if I ever saw this "rain" phenomenon that you talking about I'm not sure what I would do.

[HURAKAN]

LONG TIME NO SEE!!!

[BayouVenteux]

Rain ...What is that? I remember reading about that once...

It is this clear liquid stuff that falls from the sky. I have heard of this once in a book I read a long time ago. In fact if I ever saw this "rain" phenomenon that you talking about I'm not sure what I would do.

I read somewhere recently that it's the same substance that comes out of the faucets.

How cool would it be to see that stuff coming from the friggin' SKY of all places!?

[MiamiensisWx]

LONG TIME NO SEE!!!

I think you meant to say, "long time, no sea"... a sea of rain, that is!

[SouthFloridawx]

Rain ...What is that? I remember reading about that once...

It is this clear liquid stuff that falls from the sky. I have heard of this once in a book I read a long time ago. In fact if I ever saw this "rain" phenomenon that you talking about I'm not sure what I would do.

I read somewhere recently that it's the same substance that comes out of the faucets.

How cool would it be to see that stuff coming from the friggin' SKY of all places!?

Your kidding me!?!? That is the same stuff? I would have to see it to believe it. I mean come on that's like saying the earth is not flat or something. What other intersting theories does anyone else have regarding this phenomenon called "rain"?

[Gtmalacd]

You are going the wrong way with your logic, gtma. You don't look at an effect that is caused by many things and say "well this must be because there is x occurring." You look directly at the cause.

Doctorhurricane 2003, you seem to have failed in your analysis or you do not truly know what is a statement and a hypothetical. I posed this hypothetical just as a question. I never said that it was a EL NINO event. I asked if the constant badgering of rain was a sign of one.

[HurricaneHunter914]

I'ts like Florida and California traded climates. California has alot of rain and Florida has none. I want a trade back.

[feederband]

Rain ...What is that? I remember reading about that once...

It is this clear liquid stuff that falls from the sky. I have heard of this once in a book I read a long time ago. In fact if I ever saw this "rain" phenomenon that you talking about I'm not sure what I would do.

I read somewhere recently that it's the same substance that comes out of the faucets.

How cool would it be to see that stuff coming from the friggin' SKY of all places!?

Your kidding me!?!? That is the same stuff? I would have to see it to believe it. I mean come on that's like saying the earth is not flat or something. What other intersting theories does anyone else have regarding this phenomenon called "rain"?

Well they say the rain usally falls out of something..I think its called clouds or something like that..My grandma used to have a picture of one don't know if she still has it....Can you imagine something in the sky besides a bird or a plane? Crazy huh...

[DoctorHurricane2003]

Usually, G, when people pose a hypothetical situation, they state it as such as to avoid confusion. Otherwise, it is taken as if you are asking if the rain in CA was a sign of there being an El Niño literally.

[Aslkahuna]

It doesn't necessarily require an El Niño to bring heavy rain to CA particularly Northern CA. The Southern part of CA sees more of a correlation with ENSO warm phase events but the Northern half of the State has a much poorer correlation. The 1955-56 winter was very wet with massive flooding in CA north of Pt. Conception yet that was very much a La Niña winter.

Steve

[wxmann_91]

Probably the pattern change from zonal to highly amplified. This leaves a SE ridge and a western trough. This is why we have had so many severe wx outbreaks, a stronger Bermuda High than usual, the snowless March in the northeast, the coldest March in SFO, and the heavy rains here.

An El Nino strengthens the subtropical jet which can caused a prolonged transfer of tropical moisture here, and that is why it rains so much during El Nino. However, there are other factors that can cause a transfer of subtropical moisture, such as the MJO.

[benny]

No particular weather events says definitively that "this is el nino or la nina"... what those SST changes would do is effect the probabilities of certain events... load the dice in a way to make some events more probable than others. Having a large trough in the west in April happens almost every year...

[wxmann_91]

No particular weather events says definitively that "this is el nino or la nina"... what those SST changes would do is effect the probabilities of certain events... load the dice in a way to make some events more probable than others. Having a large trough in the west in April happens almost every year...

Not really... sometimes you can be stuck in this pattern but instead the trough parks over the East and the ridge parks over the West... that shuts out severe weather like it did last May.