How strong was todays south Atlantic cyclone?

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

I believe it had winds between 30 to 35 knots...The quickscats shown a area of 30 knot winds. Also look at systems like the 2004 south Atlantic hurricane,vince,Zeta, all had not so deep clouds. This means that these systems can be stronger then they look. I say it most likely was on the edge of tropical depression and tropical storm.

Here is a pic from earlier today...


My option lets see yours.

[rainstorm]

that picture sure looks impressive

[boca]

I think it was a boarderline depression tropical storm look at that inflow.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Personally it looks more impressive then the January 2004 tropical storm.

[TheEuropean]

Personally it looks more impressive then the January 2004 tropical storm.

I agree. The system we followed today was looking impressive with good outflow to the southeast at times. IMO ist was at least a strong depression.

[SouthFloridawx]

I'm sure it kicked up those south atlantic waves a bit... by the looks I think it would most likely be a near tropical storm but the shear blew those chances away later...

[Jim Cantore]

35-40kts

[wxmann_91]

35-40kts

[senorpepr]

25-30KT

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

This was the April 1991 tropical storm...Which is why I also watch this part. doe's this look better then our storm today?

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather/tr ... 910413.gif

The January 2004 lasted only about 12 to 18 hours...About as long as our cyclone today. But yet it was a tropical storm. So was bret,and the other short system doe's it make them any less a tropical storm?

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather/tr ... 004sat.gif

[Hybridstorm_November2001]

I would guess 30 kt, weak TS at peak at the most.

[Epsilon_Fan]

Thats a weak TS for sure

[senorpepr]

This was the April 1991 tropical storm...Which is why I also watch this part. doe's this look better then our storm today?

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather/tr ... 910413.gif

The January 2004 lasted only about 12 to 18 hours...About as long as our cyclone today. But yet it was a tropical storm. So was bret,and the other short system doe's it make them any less a tropical storm?

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather/tr ... 004sat.gif

Today's system was smaller than the aforementioned systems. Additionally, the storms that only lasted a few hours (Jan 2004, Bret, etc) was limited due to land proximity... something this storm didn't contend with.

[senorpepr]

Thats a weak TS for sure

For sure? Frothy eloquence neither convinces nor satisfies me. I am from Missouri. You have got to show me the proof.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

How do you get the proof down there? The system looked pretty impressive can a depression look impressive?

[senorpepr]

How do you get the proof down there? The system looked pretty impressive can a depression look impressive?

You can get plenty of data for this region. It's more than avvailable. I'm not saying it wasn't impressive. I also believe it was a depression, but there is no evudence, as far as I can see, that is was a tropical storm. So to say it was a "tropical storm for sure" is rather far-fetched.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

A depression is a cyclone so its the fourth...


Also found the January 2004 storms quickscat in this looks pretty impressive.
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather/tr ... 4qscat.gif

[senorpepr]

A depression is a cyclone so its the fourth...


Also found the January 2004 storms quickscat in this looks pretty impressive.
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather/tr ... 4qscat.gif

Once again... I am not saying it was NOT a cyclone. I understand that tropical depressions are cyclones. What I AM saying is where is the proof that this was a tropical storm. Satellite analyses, quikscat, surface observations, professional analyses all say that this was NOT at or above 35 knots. Therefore, I am wondering WHY it was a "tropical storm for sure." This has nothing to do with January 2004. Once again, this is not to say there wasn't a tropical system today.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

I agree there was no data showing it as a tropical storm. That was not about that...Just that I found the Jan 2004 quickscats, and to say that looks like we got a another mark on our list.

[P.K.]

Once again... I am not saying it was NOT a cyclone. I understand that tropical depressions are cyclones. What I AM saying is where is the proof that this was a tropical storm. Satellite analyses, quikscat, surface observations, professional analyses all say that this was NOT at or above 35 knots.

Anyway this is outside of the NHC area so you would have to use 10 minute averages so it may not even have been a TD.

Looking back at the Meteosat-9 images it looks interesting a fair few hours before the NRL picked up on it though.