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If this deadly trend continues will storms like Hugo, and Floyd be forgotten

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Poor Hugo

#1 Postby Jim Cantore » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:28 pm

Does anybody notice that between August 12th 2004 and October 25th 2005 Hurricane Hugo went from the second costilest Hurricane and a legend to 8th costliest and an unknown? What a fall

Costliest Atlantic Hurricanes as of Thursday August 12th 2004

1. Andrew $26,500,000,000
2. Hugo $7,000,000,000
3. Floyd $4,500,000,000
4. Isabel $3,370,000,000
5. Fran $3,200,000,000
6. Opal $3,000,000,000
7. Frederic $2,300,000,000
8. Agnes $2,100,000,000
9. Alicia $2,000,000,000
10. Bob $1,500,000,000



The new top 10 costliest Atlantic Hurricanes

1. Katrina $80,000,000,000
2. Andrew 26,500,000,000
3. Ivan $15,000,000,000
4. Wilma $14,400,000,000
5. Charley $14,000,000,000
6. Rita $9,400,000,000
7. Frances 9,000,000,000
8. Hugo $7,000,000,000
9. Jeanne $6,900,000,000
10. Floyd $4,500,000,000


Sucks to be Hugo

Dispite this fall the Storms like Hugo and Floyd that took huge falls are still legends among hurricanes and always will be
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#2 Postby Jim Cantore » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:37 pm

correction on the new top 10


The new top 10 costliest Atlantic Hurricanes

1. Katrina $80,000,000,000
2. Andrew 26,500,000,000
3. Charley $15,000,000,000
4. Wilma $14,400,000,000
5. Ivan $14,200,000,000
6. Rita $9,400,000,000
7. Frances 9,000,000,000
8. Hugo $7,000,000,000
9. Jeanne $6,900,000,000
10. Floyd $4,500,000,000
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#3 Postby Jim Cantore » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:40 pm

yet another correction they bumped frances down 100 million

The new top 10 costliest Atlantic Hurricanes

1. Katrina $80,000,000,000
2. Andrew 26,500,000,000
3. Charley $15,000,000,000
4. Wilma $14,400,000,000
5. Ivan $14,200,000,000
6. Rita $9,400,000,000
7. Frances 8,900,000,000
8. Hugo $7,000,000,000
9. Jeanne $6,900,000,000
10. Floyd $4,500,000,000
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#4 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:46 pm

In 25 years Hugo might not be in the top 20.
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#5 Postby Jim Cantore » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:59 pm

I think in 25 years that we will look at Hugo like we look at say Hurricane Danny in 1997 today and its a shame being that Hugo was such a devestating hurricane
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#6 Postby EDR1222 » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:05 pm

It's amazing that 7 out of the 10 costliest in dollars are all from 2004 and 2005.
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#7 Postby Jim Cantore » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:06 pm

its beyond belief
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#8 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:30 pm

For weather people, Hugo and Floyd like Hazel and Camille will never be forgotten even though they have been replaced in the list by much stronger, damaging storms.
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#9 Postby cycloneye » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:31 pm

I haved not forgotten Hugo and never will as he hit us hard here in Puerto Rico.
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#10 Postby HurricaneBill » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:56 pm

Adjusted to inflation, Hugo's price tag would be around $12-13 billion.

Also keep in mind, the U.S. had not been hit by a hurricane as intense as Hugo since Camille in 1969. So Hugo was the strongest hurricane to hit the U.S. in 20 years.

South Carolina had not experienced a major hurricane landfall since Gracie in 1959. So Hugo was the first major hurricane to landfall on SC in 30 years.

Trust me, Hugo will NOT be forgotten.
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#11 Postby senorpepr » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:18 pm

If you account for inflation, which should be done--you can't properly compare 1989 dollars to 2005 dollars, then here is the result:

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1  Katrina (FL, LA, MS, AL)    2005  80,000,000,000
2  Andrew (SE FL, SE LA)       1992  43,672,000,000
3  Charley (SW FL)             2004  15,000,000,000
4  Wilma (FL)                  2005  14,400,000,000
5  Ivan (AL/NW FL)             2004  14,200,000,000
6  Hugo (SC)                   1989  12,250,000,000
7  Agnes (FL, NE U.S.)         1972  11,290,000,000
8  Betsy (SE FL, SE LA)        1965  10,799,500,000
9  Rita (FL, LA, TX)           2005   9,400,000,000
10 Frances (FL)                2004   8,900,000,000
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#12 Postby MGC » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:21 pm

It is a pity to see these mighty Cat-5 and Cat-4 hurricanes humbled by lowly Cat-3 Katrina. Just proves the SS scale don't mean squat....MGC
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#13 Postby NCHurricane » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:33 pm

MGC wrote:It is a pity to see these mighty Cat-5 and Cat-4 hurricanes humbled by lowly Cat-3 Katrina. Just proves the SS scale don't mean squat....MGC


It's all about where it makes landfall. If Katrina had made landfall here (in Eastern NC), the total wouldn't have been near as much. Same storm, different money amount.
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#14 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:35 pm

NCHurricane wrote:
MGC wrote:It is a pity to see these mighty Cat-5 and Cat-4 hurricanes humbled by lowly Cat-3 Katrina. Just proves the SS scale don't mean squat....MGC


It's all about where it makes landfall. If Katrina had made landfall here (in Eastern NC), the total wouldn't have been near as much. Same storm, different money amount.


I agree completely, 100%.
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#15 Postby southerngale » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:43 pm

HURAKAN wrote:
NCHurricane wrote:
MGC wrote:It is a pity to see these mighty Cat-5 and Cat-4 hurricanes humbled by lowly Cat-3 Katrina. Just proves the SS scale don't mean squat....MGC


It's all about where it makes landfall. If Katrina had made landfall here (in Eastern NC), the total wouldn't have been near as much. Same storm, different money amount.


I agree completely, 100%.


No doubt. Rita devastated extreme SE Tx and SW La, but had it hit further west near Galveston/Houston, the damage in dollars would have been significantly higher.
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#16 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:50 pm

I'm curious about all these figures being bandied about. I've heard figures from as low as $25 billion to as high as $125 billion. I've heard it mentioned in terms of total economic cost, and in terms of insurance claims alone. Are these figures calculated on actual damage cost totals, or are they strictly confined to insurance claims?

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#17 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:57 pm

Heck, people who are in Texas still remember a tropical storm named Allison. The fact is if anyone is alive in an area hit by ANY major storm, it'll never be forgotten. On the other hand, newer generations come along and even the monsters of the past become mythical figures they may have "heard of" but they mean little to nothing to them. In that respect, it is likely that just about any hurricane given the passage of enough time, a generation or two is usually all it takes, will be "forgotten" or at the very least rendered to the "who cares" bin to the typical man or woman on the street--on the other hand to meteorology afficionados, and hurricane researchers names like Hugo, Audrey, Camille, Hugo, Charley, Betsy, Carla, Andrew, David, Ivan, Wilma, Gilbert, etc. etc. etc. will ALWAYS have significant meanig. Just my opinion FWIW.

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#18 Postby docjoe » Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:45 am

Hurricane Floyd wrote:I think in 25 years that we will look at Hugo like we look at say Hurricane Danny in 1997 today and its a shame being that Hugo was such a devestating hurricane


Tis a shame but I agree for the most part. The public's percepton of a storm is almost completely colored by how "bad" the media decides thestorm was ( at least for people who do not follow Storm2K!!)). I go back to "my" most recent storm. Dennis was a Cat 3 at landfall but due to a small path of damage and the fact that the media was sitting in P'cola on the fringes Dennis was reported to be "not that bad". For a small area and group of people though Dennis was devastating, not Katrina devastating but still...you just dont hear about it.

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BTW...I got evacuated for Danny in the middle of a camping trip to Big Lagoon...tents and TC's dont mix.
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#19 Postby senorpepr » Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:03 am

Audrey2Katrina wrote:I'm curious about all these figures being bandied about. I've heard figures from as low as $25 billion to as high as $125 billion. I've heard it mentioned in terms of total economic cost, and in terms of insurance claims alone. Are these figures calculated on actual damage cost totals, or are they strictly confined to insurance claims?

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The numbers I posted above, including the $80B regarding Katrina, are from the NHC. They use a 2:1 ratio using reported insured loses.
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#20 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:16 am

Thanks, I was always curious as to how they arrived at those numbers.

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