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Sun Herald puts out book on Katrina

#1 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:20 pm

Eight Hours that Changed the Mississippi Coast Forever:

http://www.sunheraldbook.com/

120-page color book of pictures for people who want to understand or remember Hurricane Katrina.

$29.95
$24.95 for Sun Herald subscribers

A portion of all sales will be donated to the Mississippi Hurricane Relief Fund.
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Re: Sun Herald puts out book on Katrina

#2 Postby f5 » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:29 pm

DoctorHurricane2003 wrote:Eight Hours that Changed the Mississippi Coast Forever:

http://www.sunheraldbook.com/

120-page color book of pictures for people who want to understand or remember Hurricane Katrina.

$29.95
$24.95 for Sun Herald subscribers

A portion of all sales will be donated to the Mississippi Hurricane Relief Fund.


want to remember Katrina heres a suggestion leave the Debris and slabs just like it is.i know that may sounds sarcastic but those are her fingerprints
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Re: Sun Herald puts out book on Katrina

#3 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:31 pm

f5 wrote:
DoctorHurricane2003 wrote:Eight Hours that Changed the Mississippi Coast Forever:

http://www.sunheraldbook.com/

120-page color book of pictures for people who want to understand or remember Hurricane Katrina.

$29.95
$24.95 for Sun Herald subscribers

A portion of all sales will be donated to the Mississippi Hurricane Relief Fund.


want to remember Katrina heres a suggestion leave the Debris and slabs just like it is.i know that may sounds sarcastic but those are her fingerprints



I agree don't rebuild there...Let it be for all to remember.
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#4 Postby Lindaloo » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:34 pm

Don't rebuild where, Matt? :roll: Yeah, that is a plan, uh-huh.
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#5 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:35 pm

Oh don't even start that Matt, people are going to rebuild there and you know it no matter what happens.
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Re: Sun Herald puts out book on Katrina

#6 Postby whereverwx » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:38 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
f5 wrote:
DoctorHurricane2003 wrote:Eight Hours that Changed the Mississippi Coast Forever:

http://www.sunheraldbook.com/

120-page color book of pictures for people who want to understand or remember Hurricane Katrina.

$29.95
$24.95 for Sun Herald subscribers

A portion of all sales will be donated to the Mississippi Hurricane Relief Fund.


want to remember Katrina heres a suggestion leave the Debris and slabs just like it is.i know that may sounds sarcastic but those are her fingerprints



I agree don't rebuild there...Let it be for all to remember.


I think that’s a terrible solution… could you imagine the debris piles being a breading ground for bacteria, mold, and parasites in the summer? It will just cause more problems, IMO.
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#7 Postby MGC » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:38 pm

I received my copy of the book and was rather disapointed. Not enough before and after pictures. Plus, I've seen many of the pictures before.....MGC
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#8 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:08 pm

Lindaloo wrote:Don't rebuild where, Matt? :roll: Yeah, that is a plan, uh-huh.


Rebuilding homes,business,citys below sea level is like stacking up bowling pins for the hurricanes. I don't went to see more people die in 2006. In I hope we can do some upgrades on things if we do choose to rebuild new orleans.

Look at the satellite maps of the whole of southeastern LA covered with water after the storm. That is not something to rebuild on. New orleans if we can get a levee strong enough maybe. I don't went to see pictures like that again.
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#9 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:19 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Rebuilding homes,business,citys below sea level is like stacking up bowling pins for the hurricanes. I don't went to see more people die in 2006. In I hope we can do some upgrades on things if we do choose to rebuild new orleans.

Look at the satellite maps of the whole of southeastern LA covered with water after the storm. That is not something to rebuild on. New orleans if we can get a levee strong enough maybe. I don't went to see pictures like that again.


If you care as much as you say, maybe you should then change your avatar to the following:

"Atlantic Ocean: 2005 Hurricane Season Champs! Booooo!"
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#10 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:24 pm

Hurricanes will be here a million years from now. Its part of earth in the way it works. It is not my falt that I like to track tropical cyclones. YOU can choose to build your home,Business,city in there path. But theres a bad side to it.
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#11 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:34 pm

If they rebuild in areas that are more vulnerable, structures should be made much, much stronger.
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#12 Postby Lindaloo » Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:37 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:Don't rebuild where, Matt? :roll: Yeah, that is a plan, uh-huh.


Rebuilding homes,business,citys below sea level is like stacking up bowling pins for the hurricanes. I don't went to see more people die in 2006. In I hope we can do some upgrades on things if we do choose to rebuild new orleans.

Look at the satellite maps of the whole of southeastern LA covered with water after the storm. That is not something to rebuild on. New orleans if we can get a levee strong enough maybe. I don't went to see pictures like that again.


You are venting about the wrong thing here. If the levee system had been built correctly, those people would still be alive and those homes and businesses would be okay. New Orleans damage was man-made plain and simple.
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#13 Postby Lindaloo » Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:37 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:If they rebuild in areas that are more vulnerable, structures should be made much, much stronger.


How can you build a stronger structure to withstand storm surge? Ya can't.
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#14 Postby WindRunner » Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:19 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Rebuilding homes,business,citys below sea level is like stacking up bowling pins for the hurricanes. I don't went to see more people die in 2006. In I hope we can do some upgrades on things if we do choose to rebuild new orleans.

Look at the satellite maps of the whole of southeastern LA covered with water after the storm. That is not something to rebuild on. New orleans if we can get a levee strong enough maybe. I don't went to see pictures like that again.


If you care as much as you say, maybe you should then change your avatar to the following:

"Atlantic Ocean: 2005 Hurricane Season Champs! Booooo!"


He doesn't have a choice if I remember correctly . . . a bet is a bet.
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#15 Postby Pearl River » Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:46 pm

Lindaloo said:

You are venting about the wrong thing here. If the levee system had been built correctly, those people would still be alive and those homes and businesses would be okay. New Orleans damage was man-made plain and simple.


Pilings were driven to 17.5 ft like they were supposed to be. Alot of the 17th street canal apparently from one report, was dredged to 18.5 ft, so there was some undermining. I'm sure you saw the home video of Kennard Jackley. That was Lake Pontchartrain, not Biloxi. That was a lot of water to be pounding against those levees. Another levee break was caused by a barge breaking lose and going thru the levee. I also have a friend who works for a construction company that does levee and drainage station work. He told me he does not know how one of the levees held to begin with. It was very poor construction.

Also, for years, the state of Louisana has been after the federal government to help rebuild the barrier islands. Each year we get turned down, just like this past week. Of course it should not have been in the Alaska Drilling bill. Rebuilt barrier islands would have done plenty to help with Katrina. Each year Louisiana loses 50 miles of coastline, and this year it will be a lot worse.
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#16 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:04 pm

People realize, especially after Katrina, that if they rebuild and live along the coastline, they are accepting the fact that hurricanes are a part of life and that they may lose everything they own, or if they stay during the hurricane, their lives. It is not really your place to tell these people not to rebuild there. Now if someone is complaining about the hurricanes down there every 5 seconds, you can suggest to them that they move to a place where hurricanes do not occur. Otherwise, stay out of it as it is their decision as to where they live.
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#17 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:07 pm

DoctorHurricane2003 wrote:People realize, especially after Katrina, that if they rebuild and live along the coastline, they are accepting the fact that hurricanes are a part of life and that they may lose everything they own, or if they stay during the hurricane, their lives. It is not really your place to tell these people not to rebuild there. Now if someone is complaining about the hurricanes down there every 5 seconds, you can suggest to them that they move to a place where hurricanes do not occur. Otherwise, stay out of it as it is their decision as to where they live.


Very good points.
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#18 Postby MGC » Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:09 pm

Barrier islands would have done nothing to help New Orleans. Look how much the barrier islands helped Mississippi....they didn't. Much has been argued about the marsh erosion and its alleged mitigation of storm surge. Personally, I think that is a myth. Nothing will stop the surge. Just drive down Hwy 90 along the Mississippi coast and see what I mean. The only salvation for New Orleans is a Cat-5 levee system. Not the cheep pilings with some concrete. I'd look to the levees along the Mississippi River as a guide.......MGC
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#19 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:18 pm

Actually, I have to be honest with you MGC, a full marsh IS actually a lot more effective at stopping a storm surge than a barrier island or an eroded marsh.
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#20 Postby Lindaloo » Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:43 pm

MGC wrote:Barrier islands would have done nothing to help New Orleans. Look how much the barrier islands helped Mississippi....they didn't. Much has been argued about the marsh erosion and its alleged mitigation of storm surge. Personally, I think that is a myth. Nothing will stop the surge. Just drive down Hwy 90 along the Mississippi coast and see what I mean. The only salvation for New Orleans is a Cat-5 levee system. Not the cheep pilings with some concrete. I'd look to the levees along the Mississippi River as a guide.......MGC


Thank you!
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