Pascal & Bernoulli principles combined weaken hurricanes

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#1 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:46 pm

You come here to post this? I think I'v seen some one like you at GO PBI! :eek:


We need to leave the weather alone. We just need to live with it or get out of its way. Climate/weather is to easly destroyed we must be careful.


Another thing is the Gulf stream is slowing. In we don't went to have it slow any more. It will send half the world into a ice age. I think we must leave it alone.
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#2 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:50 pm

Interesting...it would be great if we could work it but
it looks pretty complex....not impossible though...
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#3 Postby cyclonekiller » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:52 pm

Thats my point we are not leaving the weather alone. Look at how much the planet is warming through fossil fuels this idea eliminates fossil fuels while weakening hurricanes. It does not eliminate them....
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#4 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:53 pm

Reading about some of the stuff about how the Gulf stream is trying to shut down. In how millions will die we really need to leave it alone. In prey for mercy.
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#5 Postby cyclonekiller » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:55 pm

It will work as sure as an airplane flies. Bernoulli proves that.
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#6 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:56 pm

I was waiting for you to come to storm2K

Ignore him guys, this person is a troll who trolled weatherzone (Australian version of Storm2K, basically)
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#7 Postby cyclonekiller » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:58 pm

sorry but you pegged me wrong doctorhurricane2003
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#8 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:03 pm

You mean we would have to control ocean currents? We need to work on first keeping the Gulf stream flowing before anything if so. Cooling the Gulf stream would shut it down.


Shut down the Gulf stream would freeze Europe/Northeastern United states. In Kill millions. In the ocean currents move all over the world. Weather change would happen. Big time.
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#9 Postby cyclonekiller » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:05 pm

This will eliminate global warming which may disrupt the flow of the gulfstream.
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#10 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:06 pm

But that recommendation to Kerry E. looks suspect. You
need more analysis...much more meteorologically backed analysis
before you can send a paper for research review...if you are
really into the idea...do a modeling experiment
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#11 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:06 pm

Here is the entire thread and how you can expect and how this thread is already starting to play out:

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/u ... 2;t=000313

Let's not turn this thread/board into that...thanks
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#12 Postby wxmann_91 » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:08 pm

Even if does work...remember the Domino Effect...even if we just implemented in just coastal waters to make a hurricane poof before it hits land, the effects (probably bad) could be felt for centuries across the world.
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#13 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:09 pm

cyclonekiller wrote:This will eliminate global warming which may disrupt the flow of the gulfstream.



For of the sun is warming earth like it has been doing for billions of years. In cutting the Gulf stream would starve the world of food as the Glaciers move south over Europe/Northeastern north America. The weather pattern of the whole planet would be changed just for a few states along the Gulf coast not to be hit by hurricanes.
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#14 Postby cyclonekiller » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:12 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:But that recommendation to Kerry E. looks suspect. You
need more analysis...much more meteorologically backed analysis
before you can send a paper for research review...if you are
really into the idea...do a modeling experiment


I don't have the resources to do such an experiment. It is just an idea I had a few years ago while going through Andrew.
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#15 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:13 pm

Well it would take a very complex engineering to do this...the sheer
volumes of the oceans are tremendous....
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#16 Postby cyclonekiller » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:15 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
cyclonekiller wrote:This will eliminate global warming which may disrupt the flow of the gulfstream.



For of the sun is warming earth like it has been doing for billions of years. In cutting the Gulf stream would starve the world of food as the Glaciers move south over Europe/Northeastern north America. The weather pattern of the whole planet would be changed just for a few states along the Gulf coast not to be hit by hurricanes.


Soon we will have no more glaciers due to global warming that is why the gulfstream will stop flowing not because of the tunnels which stop global warming.
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#17 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:21 pm

You mean by stoping the Gulf stream will kill global warming? Yeah with starving to death like the little ice from 1300 to 1800 AD. A deep freeze over most of Europe/North America. In a world climate shift. Heck even after the change who can tell there will not still be tropical cyclones.
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#18 Postby quandary » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:23 pm

cyclonekiller wrote:Besides you can't argue the physics of the idea.


Sure, the physics is sound. However, it seems to have a huge number of dangerous consequences. If this were placed over the Gulf Stream (a good place to weaken hurricanes) or the loop current, it would shut the stream down or cool it. That would freeze over England and Norway, Finland, Sweden.
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#19 Postby quandary » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:24 pm

cyclonekiller wrote:This will eliminate global warming which may disrupt the flow of the gulfstream.


This would not elimate global warming. It would not provide that much power because it would be impossible to set up a way to transport the power from the sites to the mainland in a cost effective manner. Cars and home heating still often uses GASOLINE, which would still continue global warming.
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#20 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:26 pm

cyclonekiller wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:But that recommendation to Kerry E. looks suspect. You
need more analysis...much more meteorologically backed analysis
before you can send a paper for research review...if you are
really into the idea...do a modeling experiment


I don't have the resources to do such an experiment. It is just an idea I had a few years ago while going through Andrew.


I always enjoy a sharing of ideas. Don't hesitate to state an idea especially if it has good reasoning.
If you just want to state the idea...I have no problem with that...
just be aware of the implications and have contingency
measures in your idea to try to mitigate any potentially dangerous
consequences of your idea.

But just for information...
In order for it to become official...
in order for it to be translated into policy legislation to
permit and fund the construction of such things:

the problem is that this construction would be an
arduous task...if you are truly into the idea...perhaps try to get
an internship with a researcher, engineer, or computer model
simulator who can assist you in some fashion. If this idea is your
true passion, feel free to pursue it, but remember that there
are many processes before an idea can be translated into
policy legislation. First the research must meet today's standards
of valid scientific research, and it must be tested repeatedly.
Second, it has to be effectively translated into policy, which is an
arduous task, especially with legislators and Congressional
Officials' constituencies that would not readily give up many of
the things that cause global warming....like poor fuel sources...
many industries will fight back...I'm not saying that the fact that
others will fight back ought to negate your idea...I'm just pointing out
that it will be a very arduous task getting it translated into policy...and
first you must have extensive scientific research that meets
today's research standards...just be aware of these flies in
the ointment of your idea...

But if you can light a spark by throwing out the idea...perhaps
a group of future researchers can incorporate it somehow.
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