MGC wrote:Since the summer of 1980, which provoked this global warming debate, scientist have argued the pros and cons of global warming.
What was it about the summer of 1980 which you allege provoked the global warming debate? Personally, I was well aware of the idea years before that (although it's true that some of the earliest modeling results were available by then).
Personally, I think we are just in a interglacial warm period.
We are in an interglacial warm period, that's true. But that doesn't account for the extraordinary rate of change both in greenhouse gasses and in global temperature in the last century plus.
My primary argument against man made global warming is the 1930's. I challenge any of you to go back to the record books of the 1930's. Notice that the majority of record highs set back during that period.
There was indeed a significant warming trend in North America in the 1930s, but that trend was
not global. See, for instance,
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/abstracts/200 ... uedyS.html Surely atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were no where close to todays values, humanity had not created heat islands by paving half of the country side and how many tropical storms formed in 1933?
Carbon dioxide levels were indeed a good deal lower, and global temperatures were also somewhat lower.
I assume you're bringing up heat islands to suggest that global temperature data is skewed by that phenomenon? That's a well-falsified argument. The effect is real, but it is also compensated for in the global temperature record.
I would not venture to bet that several tropical cyclones went undetected because there were not weather satellites watching the oceans 24/7.
Quite possibly. But then nobody disputes the importance of the AMO in Atlantic storm frequency. The question is one of how much additional effect anthropogenic global warming is having on storm intensity and/or frequency, and how much additional effect we can expect as the world continues to warm. The fact that there have been significant natural variations previously does not negate that issue.
Global warming is nothing more than a scare tactic perpetrated on Americans by a bunch of kook environmentalist who have a sympathetic ear in the media. Keep driving your SUVs and your thermostatic set at 75 in the winter.....MGC
That's a vile slur against thousands of researchers, the vast majority of whom are honest and dedicated. I request that you retract this personal assault.
-- I'm much more concerned
It really is a small, small world (sorry if that song running through your head all day now bugs anyone!)
