Could a storm like Tip form in the Atlanic Basin.

[JohnTK5]

Typhoon Tip was a massive storm with the lowest pressure ever and made Katrina look small. Could something like Tip in terms of pressure and size ever form in the the Atlantic Basin, this includes the GOM and Carribean.

[krysof]

The size of Tip wouldn't fit in the gulf or the Caribbean. If such a storm was placed there, everyone would be feeling the effects. Take such a storm near central florida, TS winds go up to northern virginia. I don't think so, but you never know.

[Downdraft]

It is next to impossible for the Atlantic basin to sustain a storm the size of super typhoon Tip. That being said my grand-daddy taught me to never say never to anything.

[WeatherEmperor]

You better pray that never happens. lol

<RICKY>

[O Town]

This came up in another thread. Someone posted a picture of what Tip would look like over the United States it was massive. Anyone know where the picture is?

[bombarderoazul]

Does anyone know what was the largest hurricane ever in the Atlantic basin?

[wxmann_91]

No. Why are WPAC storms so much bigger than Atlantic storms?

1) There is not enough space in the Atlantic, WPAC is a huge area of real estate for a TC the size of Tip to form.

2) The Hurricane Heat Potential in the WPAC is off the charts, Atlantic doesn't even come close, thus a WPAC supertyphoon can sustain itself longer and gain more convection.

3) The monsoonal (sp?) troughs that are the seedlings of WPAC supertyphoons are twice or even three times the size of the easterly waves that are the seedlings of Atlantic and EPAC storms.

IMO Katrina was as close to a WPAC supertyphoon the Atlantic could get.

[wxmann_91]

This came up in another thread. Someone posted a picture of what Tip would look like over the United States it was massive. Anyone know where the picture is?

Tip would cover the entire western United States. So if you can imagine that, that would be the graphic.

[bombarderoazul]

<img src="http://www.srh.weather.gov/srh/jetstream/tropics/images/typhoonsizes.jpg">

[O Town]

Thanks Bomb thats the one I was refering to.

[JohnTK5]

No. Why are WPAC storms so much bigger than Atlantic storms?

1) There is not enough space in the Atlantic, WPAC is a huge area of real estate for a TC the size of Tip to form.

2) The Hurricane Heat Potential in the WPAC is off the charts, Atlantic doesn't even come close, thus a WPAC supertyphoon can sustain itself longer and gain more convection.

3) The monsoonal (sp?) troughs that are the seedlings of WPAC supertyphoons are twice or even three times the size of the easterly waves that are the seedlings of Atlantic and EPAC storms.

IMO Katrina was as close to a WPAC supertyphoon the Atlantic could get.

What about with Global Warming, how long before the Atlantic Basin heat potential is equal to the current heat potential of the WPAC.

[wxmann_91]

No. Why are WPAC storms so much bigger than Atlantic storms?

1) There is not enough space in the Atlantic, WPAC is a huge area of real estate for a TC the size of Tip to form.

2) The Hurricane Heat Potential in the WPAC is off the charts, Atlantic doesn't even come close, thus a WPAC supertyphoon can sustain itself longer and gain more convection.

3) The monsoonal (sp?) troughs that are the seedlings of WPAC supertyphoons are twice or even three times the size of the easterly waves that are the seedlings of Atlantic and EPAC storms.

IMO Katrina was as close to a WPAC supertyphoon the Atlantic could get.

What about with Global Warming, how long before the Atlantic Basin heat potential is equal to the current heat potential of the WPAC.

The WPAC will warm with the Atlantic. Still can't see why we can have a Tip-sized storm, b/c unless continental drift happens as fast as global warming and the Atlantic doubles in size within that timeframe, and we somehow get a SUPER wet MJO (and I mean like mid-level dewpoints of 80 degrees, sure like that would happen), a Tip-sized storm is just pretty much out of the realm of possibility.

[boca]

Does anyone have a sat of Tip and what year was Tip?

[krysof]

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... e%3Dactive

[JtSmarts]

[wxmann_91]

Does anyone have a sat of Tip and what year was Tip?

These satellite images were not at the peak the Tip, but they show the enormous size of Tip:

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/images/typhoon-tip-19791013-noaa6vis.gif

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/images/typhoon-tip-19791014-noaa6vis.gif

[WeatherEmperor]

my goodness Tip looked like a real monster.

<RICKY>

[Typhoon_Willie]

It was!

[whereverwx]

This is a big one!

[Brent]

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