We're all listening to different radio stations and reading different sites, so I'm not quite sure how definite this is -- got it in an forwarded email, so if it's true there should be verification by news outlets soon.
"the mayor just made an announcement that she is going to try to get the mandatory evacuation today at 5. she is going before the judge in a few minutes"
Galveston - possible mand. evac at 5PM
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djtil wrote:wow...i guess overreactions are to be expected after katrina...but its entirely too early and unnecessary to order mandatory evacuations today.
How is it an overreaction? Do you know how long it takes to evacuate Galveston and then other parts of the Houston area, if necessary? Galveston has to go first.
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southerngale wrote:djtil wrote:wow...i guess overreactions are to be expected after katrina...but its entirely too early and unnecessary to order mandatory evacuations today.
How is it an overreaction? Do you know how long it takes to evacuate Galveston and then other parts of the Houston area, if necessary? Galveston has to go first.
It doesnt take 72+hours and I can tell you this there are a lot of BOIs there, that aren't going anywhere.
IMO, its too early. I think 48 hours is enough.
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Never too early to issue a mandatory evacuation.
It's interesting to see the different steps local officials have to take to order mandatory evacuations.
I live on the outer Banks of North Carolina, and here in Dare County we have what's called the "Dare County Control Group". This group is comprised of a county commissioner, mayors from the 6 towns in the county, park service super, and a few others. This group needs no ones permission to order evacuations. And there is no such thing as a "voluntary evacuation" in Dare County.
It's interesting to see the different steps local officials have to take to order mandatory evacuations.
I live on the outer Banks of North Carolina, and here in Dare County we have what's called the "Dare County Control Group". This group is comprised of a county commissioner, mayors from the 6 towns in the county, park service super, and a few others. This group needs no ones permission to order evacuations. And there is no such thing as a "voluntary evacuation" in Dare County.
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djtil wrote:its about a 24hr overreaction...which is valuable time to monitor tracks and intensity.
im not saying it wont be necessary....but today is too early.
correct... to proper action would be to issue volantary evacs and stress
the madatory may be coming soon... that eases the stress and traffic.
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dwg71 wrote:southerngale wrote:djtil wrote:wow...i guess overreactions are to be expected after katrina...but its entirely too early and unnecessary to order mandatory evacuations today.
How is it an overreaction? Do you know how long it takes to evacuate Galveston and then other parts of the Houston area, if necessary? Galveston has to go first.
It doesnt take 72+hours and I can tell you this there are a lot of BOIs there, that aren't going anywhere.
IMO, its too early. I think 48 hours is enough.
48 hours before the storm is not enough when it takes at least 36 hours (based on experiences during Alicia). Furthermore, if we're expecting TS force winds by 10 AM Friday, then everyone needs to be gone BEFORE that time or they can't get across the causway. So...36 hours before 10 AM Friday would be 10 PM Wednesday night. Given the fact that it will probably take longer than 36 hours nowadays....
Ah, nevermind...I'm tired of fighting with you guys about this.
If we didn't go, you'd all be saying "You know better...didn't you learn from Katrina? Why did you wait? It's your own fault if you're stuck there and didn't evacuate."
Thanks for the support to those who have been supportive.
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dwg71 wrote:southerngale wrote:djtil wrote:wow...i guess overreactions are to be expected after katrina...but its entirely too early and unnecessary to order mandatory evacuations today.
How is it an overreaction? Do you know how long it takes to evacuate Galveston and then other parts of the Houston area, if necessary? Galveston has to go first.
It doesnt take 72+hours and I can tell you this there are a lot of BOIs there, that aren't going anywhere.
IMO, its too early. I think 48 hours is enough.
Everyone thats screaming it is too early to leave would be the same posters that would criticize the mayor if Rita hits galveston and causes another disaster.
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Mandatory evacs today are a good idea IMO. People need to remember that even in Mobile some 120-130mi NE of New Orleans the storm surge was pretty bad (10ft if I recall but someone correct me). So even if this storm does come in SW of Hou/Gal b/c of the curvature of the land the surge into Gal could still reach levels that'll allow for moderate flooding. Obviously the size of Rita, wind speed and movement speed will factor into how far north of the eye the moderate to severe surge gets but it's something to think about.
Just for talking points 8-10ft of surge into Gal would cause A LOT of problems if people didn't evac b/c they felt they were safe since Rita went in 80-100nm to the SW. I mean once you get to 6ft of water you have problems since most adults probably range 5'5"-6' (ballpark figure but trying to give people idea of how 6-7ft of water is enough to cause massive problems).
Just for talking points 8-10ft of surge into Gal would cause A LOT of problems if people didn't evac b/c they felt they were safe since Rita went in 80-100nm to the SW. I mean once you get to 6ft of water you have problems since most adults probably range 5'5"-6' (ballpark figure but trying to give people idea of how 6-7ft of water is enough to cause massive problems).
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How many threads have there been in the last 2,3,5 days with the same argument?
It's always someone from out-of-state, who's never been here who says it's too early.
It's always us Houstonians who say it's NOT too early because we know better. We know that I-45 is a traffic jam on a typical Wednesday afternoon in April.
Not to sound rude, but dismiss comments from people who don't live here. Until they share the daily joy of Houston traffic they are clueless. Follow the advice of your county officials.
They know how to plan for these things here in TX (like Florida). It won't be like LA as long as people follow orders.
It's always someone from out-of-state, who's never been here who says it's too early.
It's always us Houstonians who say it's NOT too early because we know better. We know that I-45 is a traffic jam on a typical Wednesday afternoon in April.
Not to sound rude, but dismiss comments from people who don't live here. Until they share the daily joy of Houston traffic they are clueless. Follow the advice of your county officials.
They know how to plan for these things here in TX (like Florida). It won't be like LA as long as people follow orders.
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