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Subtropical Storm Nicole at 11 AM

#1 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:34 am

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 Tropical Storm Nicole Advisory Number 6


Statement as of 11:00 am EDT on October 11, 2004


 
...Nicole soon to be extratropical...
At 11 am EDT...1500z...the center of Tropical Storm Nicole was
located near latitude 36.0 north... longitude 61.3 west or about
325 miles... 520 km... northeast of Bermuda and about 550
miles...890 km...south of Sable Island Nova Scotia.
 
Nicole is moving toward the northeast near 21 mph...33 km/hr...and a
turn to the north is expected during the next 24 hours.
 
Maximum sustained winds are near  45 mph... 75 km/hr...with higher
gusts.  Some strengthening is forecast during the next 24 hours...as
Nicole becomes transformed into an extratropical storm.
 
Tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 260 miles
...415 km from the center.
 
Estimated minimum central pressure is  988 mb...29.18 inches.
 
Repeating the 11 am EDT position...36.0 N... 61.3 W.  Movement
toward...northeast near 21 mph.  Maximum sustained winds... 45 mph.
Minimum central pressure... 988 mb.
 
The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at
5 PM EDT.
 
Forecaster Pasch

 


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WTNT45 KNHC 111430
TCDAT5
TROPICAL STORM NICOLE DISCUSSION NUMBER   6
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT MON OCT 11 2004

NICOLE IS STILL GENERATING DEEP CONVECTION...WHICH CONTINUES TO BE
SHEARED TO THE EAST OF THE CENTER BY STRONG UPPER-LEVEL WESTERLIES.
SATELLITE CLASSIFICATIONS FROM TAFB...SAB...AND AFWA...STILL
INDICATE SUBTROPICAL STATUS.  A REPORT FROM THE SHIP KSDF...TO THE
SOUTHEAST OF THE CENTER...SUPPORTS THE CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATE
OF 45 KT WITH A CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 988 MB.  THE SYSTEM IS
APPROACHING A DISTINCT BAROCLINIC ZONE...AND THEREFORE WILL BECOME
EXTRATROPICAL VERY SOON.  NICOLE MAY BECOME ABSORBED BY...OR MERGE
WITH...A BAROCLINIC CYCLONE DEVELOPING TO ITS NORTH.  HOWEVER...THE
LATEST GLOBAL MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THAT NICOLE COULD MAINTAIN
ITS IDENTITY AS AN EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE FOR A FEW DAYS.  SO THE
OFFICIAL FORECAST SHOWS A TRACK THROUGH 72 HOURS.

LATEST CENTER FIXES ARE NOT IN GOOD AGREEMENT BUT IT APPEARS THAT
THERE HAS BEEN SOME NORTHEASTWARD ACCELERATION.  HOWEVER MOST TRACK
GUIDANCE INDICATES A TURN TO THE LEFT FOLLOWED BY A SLOWING OF THE
FORWARD SPEED WITHIN 24 HOURS.  THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS A LITTLE
EAST OF THE PREVIOUS ONE AND IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH A CONSENSUS OF
DYNAMICAL MODELS.

THE WIND RADII HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED BASED ON A QUIKSCAT OVERPASS AT
10Z.

FORECASTER PASCH
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
 
INITIAL      11/1500Z 36.0N  61.3W    40 KT
 12HR VT     12/0000Z 39.4N  62.0W    50 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
 24HR VT     12/1200Z 41.0N  63.0W    50 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
 36HR VT     13/0000Z 42.0N  63.0W    50 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
 48HR VT     13/1200Z 44.0N  62.0W    50 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
 72HR VT     14/1200Z 48.0N  59.5W    45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
 96HR VT     15/1200Z...MERGED WITH EXTRATROPICAL SYSTEM


But it's hours as a tropical entity are numbered as it will become extratropical.
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#2 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:53 am

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WTNT35 KNHC 111438
TCPAT5
BULLETIN
SUBTROPICAL STORM NICOLE ADVISORY NUMBER   6...CORRECTED
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT MON OCT 11 2004
...CORRECTED TO SHOW SUBTROPICAL STORM...
...NICOLE SOON TO BE EXTRATROPICAL...


Ok they corrected the heading of the advisory.
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#3 Postby Josephine96 » Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:03 am

Um.. when did we have Nicole.. lol
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#4 Postby Josephine96 » Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:04 am

So much for me writing a forecast on Nicole.. She'll be gone soon :sad:
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#5 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:19 am

In most of the advisories the NHC had problems with subtropical.
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#6 Postby jason2k » Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:24 am

Is it a possibility of nicole making it nova scotia and has a hurricane ever made landfall there?
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#7 Postby senorpepr » Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:29 am

jason2k wrote:Is it a possibility of nicole making it nova scotia and has a hurricane ever made landfall there?


It's possible for Nicole to strike Nova Scotia. As for a hurricane ever hitting Nova Scotia, yes.

Canadian Hurricane Centre wrote:At 12:10 a.m. ADT, Monday September 29, 2003, Hurricane Juan made landfall in Nova Scotia as one of most powerful and damaging hurricanes to ever affect Canada. In response to the large demand for information, Environment Canada has created a comprehensive Hurricane Juan web site summarizing all aspects of the hurricane. The web site is updated regularly with new articles, summaries, maps, and photos.


http://www.atl.ec.gc.ca/weather/hurricane/juan/

Juan was retired after what had happened to Nova Scotia.
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#8 Postby P.K. » Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:36 am

I'm a bit confused as to why this got a name when it has always been subtropical. I thought only tropical systems got named?
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#9 Postby Hyperstorm » Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:20 am

This will always be a debate...the naming of subtropical storms.

I, personally, think that they shouldn't name them simply because you screw up the number of "tropical" systems that form in a given year. Some count them as part of the total number of named (tropical) storms...some do not. They obviously did this in part, to raise public awareness of these systems as they can be as damaging as "tropical" systems.

After all, they are part tropical...
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#10 Postby Stormsfury » Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:04 pm

As for the debate on subtropical storms and naming ... since 1968 (when the first subtropical storm appeared on best track data and plots, they still counted those into the number of ATL basin storms for the season ... so in some aspects, naming them both eliminates some confusion but creates some new confusion amongst the general public ...)

IMHO, since they are factored into the number of storms that develop, naming them isn't a bad idea ...

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#11 Postby wxman57 » Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:06 pm

Looks like Nicole is already gone. The circulation was ripped apart over the last 2-3 hours. There's nothing left of Nicole now but moisture streaming into the large upper low offshore New England.
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#12 Postby HurricaneBill » Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:50 pm

I see nothing wrong with naming subtropical storms. A good portion of subtropical storms eventually become tropical.

Examples:
Gustav 2002
Kyle 2002
Ana 2003
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#13 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:06 pm

Before 2002, the NHC had decided to just number subtropical storms, an example is the subtropical storm of 1992. In a meeting in 2002 they changed they way of thinking and began naming subtropical storms. The first one was Gustav. Before, in 2000, Subtropical Storm #1 acquire tropical characteristics and became TS Leslie. In 2001, Subtropical Storm #1 acquired tropical status and became TS Karen, just examples.
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