4 WAY STOP AND TRAFFIC DEATHS

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4 WAY STOP AND TRAFFIC DEATHS

#1 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:43 am

well it was bound to happen in south florida. motorist killed today at an intersection in palm beach county that didn't have working traffic lights.

also 4 killed in deland yesterday on motorcycles doing 70 in a 30...they hit fallen trees.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/ ... -headlines

Post frances deaths will probably be higher than the storm itself. Stay Safe and take it easy...this state certainly doesnt have the best drivers in the world.
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#2 Postby chadtm80 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:44 am

It always happens and its so sad :-( I can tell you this much.. Ive had to use one of my fingers a couple of times the last couple of days for those that dont stop ;-) Ill let you guess what finger it was
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#3 Postby Aquawind » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:53 am

No doubt driving is a scary thing throughout much of the state right now...Pay Attention out there..
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#4 Postby Lindaloo » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:57 am

chadtm80 wrote:It always happens and its so sad :-( I can tell you this much.. Ive had to use one of my fingers a couple of times the last couple of days for those that dont stop ;-) Ill let you guess what finger it was



What is funny, most of them who run stop signs or traffic signals know what that signal means. :lol:
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#5 Postby NFLnut » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:21 am

All drivers need to drive with total caution, and attention. However, here in Orlando some lights work, others don't. You'll pass two that work, and then three that don't. When you are used to looking for a light (when we have power 99% of the time) and you don't see one, it is very easy to miss. Everyone has so much on their minds, are a little depressed, and are a little freaked out having just gone through two devastating Hurricanes in three weeks (and a third on the way?!.. 'Hope not!). If you aren't paying attention for even one second, it is easy to forget to stop.

Just don't believe that everyone who rolls through a light that's out does it intentionally.
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#6 Postby GalvestonDuck » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:24 am

Okay, first of all, why were they doing 70 in a 30 mph zone? Second, if they were going out to survey the damage caused by Frances (as was claimed in the article), what sense does it make to travel that fast AND what good does it do when it is dark outside? How much damage can you really see? Obviously, not a lot when a big oak tree isn't visible until it's too late. Third, why were they out after the curfew? (I'll refrain from ranting about helmets right now.)

Sad, but could have been prevented.
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#7 Postby blumoon » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:24 am

how tragic...so young. its easy to forget how fragile we are.
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#8 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:42 am

GalvestonDuck wrote:Okay, first of all, why were they doing 70 in a 30 mph zone? Second, if they were going out to survey the damage caused by Frances (as was claimed in the article), what sense does it make to travel that fast AND what good does it do when it is dark outside? How much damage can you really see? Obviously, not a lot when a big oak tree isn't visible until it's too late. Third, why were they out after the curfew? (I'll refrain from ranting about helmets right now.)

Sad, but could have been prevented.


you are correct on all accounts. some would say process of natural selection but i certainly wouldnt go that far. hate to see anyone get killed.
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#9 Postby BocaGirl » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:58 am

Many busy roads have 3 or 4 lanes. A well-meaning driver stops in one of the lanes, motions you across and then you almost get nailed by someone in the far lane who hasn't stopped. Every intersection without a light is a heart stopper.
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#10 Postby debbiet » Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:08 am

I know that in my area we had at least one traffic fatality due to power outages during Isabel and failure to observe a 4-way stop...but you are absolutely correct about the post-storm injuries and damages being more severe thant during the storm. This played itself out time and time again last year in VA...as a paramedic I personally cared for at least 4 extremely serious injuries resulting from people trying to cut up and remove their own trees long AFTER the storm had passed. 2 of the 4 were left permanently disabled. The adverse affects of these storms goes on longer than most people realize
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#11 Postby AdvAutoBob » Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:36 am

GalvestonDuck wrote:Okay, first of all, why were they doing 70 in a 30 mph zone? Second, if they were going out to survey the damage caused by Frances (as was claimed in the article), what sense does it make to travel that fast AND what good does it do when it is dark outside? How much damage can you really see? Obviously, not a lot when a big oak tree isn't visible until it's too late. Third, why were they out after the curfew? (I'll refrain from ranting about helmets right now.)

Sad, but could have been prevented.


Motorcycles tend to add to the law of natural selection, and anybody speeding in the dark, after a storm has just passed, etc. is a prime candidate for a Darwin Award. (I say this as a rider myself.... one of FEW Harley riders who actually wear a helmet). I echo the sentiment of this being sad but preventable... :(
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#12 Postby GalvestonDuck » Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:40 am

Yup, that's why in the ER, we always called motorcycles "donorcycles." (No helmet = brain death = organ donor)
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