BOC

corpusbreeze · #1 Postby **corpusbreeze** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:20 pm

Been watching the BOC today. At one time this morning I noticed a small swirl. Its not too impressive right now but seems to be pulling up north. Noticed also winds have switched from the ENE when we usually have a ESE wind.

~SirCane · #2 Postby **~SirCane** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:21 pm

hmmm-is the TPC mentioning it?

Johnny · #3 Postby **Johnny** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:28 pm

The swirl is fairly obvious looking at the visible satellite loop. I'm not sure what's going on there. Maybe one of the mets here can lend a hand.

corpusbreeze · #4 Postby **corpusbreeze** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:28 pm

~SirCane wrote:hmmm-is the TPC mentioning it?

No , maybe later if this keeps building.

Kennethb · #5 Postby **Kennethb** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:30 pm

I though I was seeing things too. Could be the moisture that the New Orleans Office stated was "the GFS shows moisture from the remnants of Tropical Storm Earl moving toward the northern Gulf coast by Thursday". We still have the remnants of an old front in the Gulf, an ideal environment creating TCs.

Johnny · #6 Postby **Johnny** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:31 pm

Here's a quick link to the sat. loop.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

~SirCane · #7 Postby **~SirCane** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:36 pm

Looks interesting. It will be interesting to see if the TPC mentions this later on.

#8 Postby **PurdueWx80** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:43 pm

I don't see much if any rotation. The whole mass is rotating around the edge of the ridge, which seems to be building north. Looks like humid air is just now making it to the coast, so the air mass behind the front over the water is obviously being modified. Still, the linear nature of the convection would indicate that the old front is still in the form of a boundary. There is probably just a 3-5 degree dewpoint difference across it. It is definitely something to watch, although it may not have much time if the ridge keeps pushing it North. The moisture/energy from Earl hasn't gotten there, and from the looks of it, it may not.

rbaker · #9 Postby **rbaker** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:48 pm

still a lot of shear for something to develop just to the north of it, it would have a fight on its hands, right now, and of course the old persistance phrase comes into play

Matthew5 · #10 Postby **Matthew5** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:52 pm

I would say that there is a low around 20.5 north/94.5 west. With that larger area of convection. It seems to be moving to the west-northwest. Signs that it is a low pressure area it is pulling some inflow into it(Meanly this morning you could see that) In the convection is firing near it. This maybe something to watch over the next 24 hours.

Thats may 2 cents

corpusbreeze · #11 Postby **corpusbreeze** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:04 pm

thats where I think a low is also Matthew5

LaBreeze · #12 Postby **LaBreeze** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:57 pm

A local met mentioned this morning that by the weekend we may have some "tropical" moisture to deal with and in the extended forecast he mentioned that we need to be watching the Gulf at the end of next week. Comments anyone???

#13 Postby **stormcloud** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:06 pm

There is a break between the western upper high and the Atlantic upper high. This trough is creating the clouds and thunderstorms in the western GOM. The eastern high will begin to 'snag' some of that moisture and funnel it northward. That was one of the concerns if Earl got in the Gulf, it too would ride around the upper ridge, maybe toward Texas.

#14 Postby **MGC** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:25 pm

Shear and outflow boundries....no short term development....MGC

goodlife · #15 Postby **goodlife** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:29 pm

umm..what does BOC mean?

Matthew5 · #16 Postby **Matthew5** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:31 pm

I don't really see to many outflow bountries with this at this time. But development should be slow.

#17 Postby **PurdueWx80** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:33 pm

goodlife wrote:umm..what does BOC mean?

Bay of Campeche - it's the Bay south of the Gulf of Mexico and west of the Yucatan Peninsula.

#18 Postby **mascpa** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:34 pm

Bay of Campeche

ColdFront77 · #19 Postby **ColdFront77** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:09 pm

The Tropical Prediction Center's Tropical Weather Outlooks say, "For the North Atlantic... Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico." -- shouldn't they say "For the North Atlantic... Caribbean Sea... the Gulf of Mexico and the Bay of Campeche"?

As mentioned, the Bay of Campeche is another body of water south of Gulf of Mexico and is part of the Atlantic Basin.

#20 Postby **BayouVenteux** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:14 am

ColdFront77 wrote:The Tropical Prediction Center's Tropical Weather Outlooks say, "For the North Atlantic... Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico." -- shouldn't they say "For the North Atlantic... Caribbean Sea... the Gulf of Mexico and the Bay of Campeche"?

As mentioned, the Bay of Campeche is another body of water south of Gulf of Mexico and is part of the Atlantic Basin.

But it is a bay, I suppose that's one step in the geographic pecking order below a gulf, and there the arbitrary line is drawn. I suppose if they wanted to get technical, they could certainly include it, but then I guess they'd have to include the Gulf of Honduras too...so as not to offend anyone by leaving any equally deserving subregions of the Atlantic Basin out. Geopolitical correctness y'know. :lol:

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