Tropical wave affecting the lesser antilles will it develop?

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Tropical wave affecting the lesser antilles will it develop?

#1 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:44 am

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/WATL/IR4/20.jpg

But upper winds are not favorable (at this time) as a trough is interacting with that wave.Barbados will get some rain today from part of that wave/trough.
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#2 Postby AussieMark » Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:53 am

Is it possible for the wave to develop in the Caribbean Sea or won't the wave survive to reach the Caribbean.

I know past years don't mean anything this year but historically the really strong and intense Hurricanes in recent years have formed from Tropical Waves that became organized in the Caribbean.

For Example, Roxanne, Mitch, Iris, Michelle
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#3 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 06, 2003 6:07 am

The wave axis is well east of the islands around 45w this monday morning and it has to be watched just in case the shear fades.
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#4 Postby wxman57 » Mon Oct 06, 2003 6:08 am

Upper-level winds appear favorable for development. The GFS indicates a path toward the islands of the northeast Caribbean then straight north and out to sea as a VERY strong/sharp upper-level trof moves into the central Caribbean. So it looks like no threat to the U.S, just a threat to the NE Caribbean should it develop.
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#5 Postby Steve H. » Mon Oct 06, 2003 7:02 am

Wonder what J. B. has to say this week. Yeah, I know everybody picks on him, but he speculates based on the pattern and whens its dull out there, it'll get us by til the next (last) spike of activity in the basin. Since the EPAC is bustling, expect tht to translate somehow into the Atlantic. EC and GFS show development of wave (low) east of the islands, with the EC and GGEM showing development near the Bahamas heading north as well. The GGEM also shows development in the GOM at 144 hours. But that's it for the models. Oh, the ETA tries to close a low near the SE GOM, but nothing else shows that. Other than that its hurricane trivia....yawn. Monday, time to rise and shine!! :roll:
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#6 Postby Stormsfury » Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:17 pm

Steve H. wrote:Wonder what J. B. has to say this week. Yeah, I know everybody picks on him, but he speculates based on the pattern and whens its dull out there, it'll get us by til the next (last) spike of activity in the basin. Since the EPAC is bustling, expect tht to translate somehow into the Atlantic. EC and GFS show development of wave (low) east of the islands, with the EC and GGEM showing development near the Bahamas heading north as well. The GGEM also shows development in the GOM at 144 hours. But that's it for the models. Oh, the ETA tries to close a low near the SE GOM, but nothing else shows that. Other than that its hurricane trivia....yawn. Monday, time to rise and shine!! :roll:


The EPAC has been bustling along a pretty good monsoon trough in that region. It could get interesting if the neg. MJO translates east into the ATL.

Of another note, the QBO has gone WAY negative (think it was around -26.9 the last time I checked a few days ago. I'm at work (on my lunch hour) and don't have all my links readily handy.

I think we may get one more storm and then the season concludes.

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NCEP tropical desk....something may develop in 72 hrs EC.

#7 Postby Weathermaster » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:39 pm

This tropical wave may develop and affect the islands.

Here the message...


THE GFS INDICATES A STRONG EASTERLY WAVE AT 48 HRS OVER THE
WESTERN ATLANTIC NEAR 55W WHICH DEVELOPS INTO A STRONG FEATURE
ON THE DOORSTEPS OF THE WINDWARD ISLES AT 72 HRS. FROM THE
WINDWARDS AND EAST..THIS EASTERLY WAVE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF
DIFFLUENCE IN THE UPPER TROPOSPHERE TO ENHANCE DEVELOPMENT
GIVEN THE ORIENTATION OF THE 250 HPA RIDGE ACCESS.
HOWEVER..WEST OF THE WINDWARDS STRONG SHEAR ALOFT WILL LIKELY
INHIBIT FURTHER INTENSIFICATION. THE TPC TREATS THIS FEATURE AS
A TROPICAL WAVE MOVING IT ALONG FROM 45W AND S OF 17N TO 49W BY
24 HRS...53W BY 36 HRS...57W BY 48 HRS...61W BY 60 HRS AND 65W
BY 72 HRS.

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#8 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:44 pm

I dont know if you saw Ada Monzon but I saw her and she said at univision at noon that this wave has to be watched for further development in comming days so let's see what happens.
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#9 Postby Steve H. » Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:14 pm

Yeah Luis, you may see some action there near Puerto Rico in the coming days. This wave may get into the eastern Caribbean, then move NW toward Puerto Rico. Pattern is still uncertain, but several models like this solution.
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#10 Postby *StOrmsPr* » Mon Oct 06, 2003 4:36 pm

I saw her too Cycloneye!

so lets wacht it.



Hmm i found this,didn't knew it was a cat 4 :
1867 29 oct. "San Narciso" Cat 4


http://www.weather.unisys.com/hurricane ... /track.gif
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#11 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 06, 2003 6:03 pm

StOrmsPr I saw her(Ada Monzon) this evening saying that the models develop that wave and moves it WNW or NW close to PR by the weekend so let's watch it.
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There may be more than a storm..

#12 Postby hial5 » Mon Oct 06, 2003 7:23 pm

in Puerto Rico by this weekend if Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez, a Puerto Rican superstar, leads the Marlins to victory against the Cubs :o

Sorry about the post..got caught up in all the excitement
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Re: Tropical wave flares up east of the lesser antilles

#13 Postby abajan » Wed Oct 08, 2003 5:10 am

cycloneye wrote:But upper winds are not favorable (at this time) as a trough is interacting with that wave.Barbados will get some rain today from part of that wave/trough.


Conditions are becoming more favorable according to the latest TWO. BTW, we're finally getting some much needed rain at my house! :)
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#14 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:01 am

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/JSJ/AFDSJU

Here is the discussion from the San Juan NWS and we here in Puerto Rico can expect plenty of rain as this wave moves slowly thru the region.But the question is if it will have the chance to be more than a wave down the road as upper winds are a bit more favorable.
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Rotation east of Martinique..

#15 Postby Weathermaster » Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:11 am

Looking at satellite images loop, there is some rotation and some thunderstorms near it just east of the island of Martinique.

Maybe, there is something trying to develop.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

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Just remember east coast residents

#16 Postby WXBUFFJIM » Wed Oct 08, 2003 1:08 pm

There hasn't been a ladnfalling hurricane in October along the eastern seaboard since 1954 when Hazel hit the eastern seaboard. It shows how rare we see hurricane impact the eastern seaboard directly in October.

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Re: Just remember east coast residents

#17 Postby JCT777 » Wed Oct 08, 2003 1:39 pm

WXBUFFJIM wrote:There hasn't been a ladnfalling hurricane in October along the eastern seaboard since 1954 when Hazel hit the eastern seaboard. It shows how rare we see hurricane impact the eastern seaboard directly in October.


That's good information, Jim. Not that east coast residents (north of FL) should completely ignore the tropics, but certainly there is less concern in October/November than in August or September.
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#18 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 08, 2003 2:02 pm

John like here in the islands we are worried every year in august and september than october and november but it doesn't mean that in any given year something forms in the last weeks of the season and the best example was crazy Lenny in 1999 which was a cat 4 in mid to late november which moved from west to east from south of Cuba to the leewards.
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