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john186292 · #1 Postby **john186292** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:30 pm

What were, and might be in some future, the oddest hurricanes ever?

Eg., could one circle the globe?
...what is the northernmost reach ever, with TS speeds? With Cat five?
...What is the southernmost antarctic bound record?
...any ever come from pacific to carib and still strong? Or pacific into Gulf? ..horrors...

What do you predict global warming will make possible, in the most extreme cases?

....Any ever back into the African coast? I have never seen that. How about the Mediterranean? Up the Red Sea, maybe? Could be part of circling the globe.
....Any ever get around the tip of S. Africa? The tip of S america?

What's the longest lifespan for a hurricane?
...I see one now near Kenya's lattitude. Does the equatorial pressure barrier usually discourage such?

When N and S america were yet unconnected, did hurricanes begin at africa and pass a gap in the panama area, and just get superstrong on the way to China?

When all continents were one, as happens every six hundred million years..i think??...Gondowanaland? ...Pangea?....did hurricanes circle the globe easily? So, did they then live for years, wobbling N or S as needed to stay in warm waters? Longlived, like Jupiter's Red Spot..not saying the Spot wobbles, just longlived.

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bahamaswx · #2 Postby **bahamaswx** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:06 pm

john186292 wrote:
john186292 wrote:Eg., could one circle the globe?

No.

john186292 wrote:...what is the northernmost reach ever, with TS speeds? With Cat five?

TS: who cares, there are stronger extra-tropical storms.
CAT5: Camille?

john186292 wrote:What do you predict global warming will make possible, in the most extreme cases?

No one knows... too many possiblities.

john186292 wrote:....Any ever get around the tip of S. Africa? The tip of S america?

Impossible. Plus cyclones are VERY rare in the South Atlantic Ocean.

john186292 wrote:What's the longest lifespan for a hurricane?

1971 Hurricane Ginger (30days)

john186292 wrote:...I see one now near Kenya's lattitude. Does the equatorial pressure barrier usually discourage such?

??? No.

bahamaswx · #3 Postby **bahamaswx** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:09 pm

Not to mention if you want to talk about odd storms it might be more interesting to speak of storms with unusual tracks like Lenny, Kyle or Ginger.

Stormsfury · #4 Postby **Stormsfury** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:39 pm

Hurricane Ginger and another one reanalyzed in 1899 both are tied for the longest lived hurricane in the ATL

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/ima ... sthurr.jpg

Longest lasting hurricane on record: Storm #3 (also known as the "San Ciriaco" hurricane for its impact in Puerto Rico in 1899 has been re-analyzed to now tie the record for longest lasting tropical cyclone in the Atlantic basin. It began on August 3 in the tropical North Atlantic, hit Puerto Rico as a Category 4 hurricane on the 8th, hit North Carolina as a Category 3 hurricane on the 18th, transformed into an extratropical system north of Bermuda on the 21st, redeveloped into a tropical storm on the 26th, went through the Azores Islands as a Category 1 hurricane on the 3rd of September and finally dissipated as an extratropical storm on the 4th. It was a storm system for 33 days and a tropical storm or hurricane for 28 of those days. This ties the record with Hurricane Ginger of 1971, which also was a tropical cyclone for 28 days.

bahamaswx · #5 Postby **bahamaswx** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:43 pm

Even though I'm smart enough to realize SF will probably prove me wrong, I believe Ginger was a storm/hurricane for 30days.

#6 Postby **cycloneye** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:44 pm

Yes Stormsfury we here remember that one in our history because it was one of the most strongest canes to make landfall here.

ColdFront77 · #7 Postby **ColdFront77** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:04 pm

For those that may not know the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale:

The Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale:

Category One Hurricane: Maximum sustained winds in the eyewall of 74 to 95 mph

Category Two Hurricane: Maximum sustained winds in the eyewall of 96 to 110 mph

Category Three Hurricane: Maximum sustained winds in the eyewall of 111 to 130 mph

Category Four Hurricane: Maximum sustained winds in the eyewall of 131 to 155 mph

Category Five Hurricane: Maximum sustained winds greater than 155 mph in the eyewall

Stormsfury · #8 Postby **Stormsfury** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:12 pm

bahamaswx wrote:Even though I'm smart enough to realize SF will probably prove me wrong, I believe Ginger was a storm/hurricane for 30days.

That was directly from the AOML/HRD website (Hurricane Research Division) as are these coordinates.

Scroll to Storm #3 on 1899
http://www.stormsfury1.com/Weather/Trop ... s/1899.txt

Scroll to Hurricane Ginger on 1971.
http://www.stormsfury1.com/Weather/Trop ... s/1971.txt

wrkh99 · #9 Postby **wrkh99** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:13 pm

Elena was a weird storm .

Stormsfury · #10 Postby **Stormsfury** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:19 pm

wrkh99 wrote:Elena was a weird storm .

Yep

So was Gordon in 1994

GalvestonDuck · #11 Postby **GalvestonDuck** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:19 pm

I thought Dennis was weird. But since I've only been tracking for the past five years, that's just based on my limited knowledge and history.

AussieMark · #12 Postby **AussieMark** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:19 pm

Georges 7 Landfalls from the time he first struck the Lesser Antilles till the time he was blown out over Mississippi

wrkh99 · #13 Postby **wrkh99** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:22 pm

How about Danny . The storm that sat on Mobile bay for 2 days and droped up to 40 inches of rain. The weird thing was I got 27 inches here while 5 miles up the road saw only 2 inches. Danny also formed back into a TS when it got into the Atlantic .

AussieMark · #14 Postby **AussieMark** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:26 pm

what about Flora striking Haiti then cuba driftng southward and striking Cuba again from the south this time before tearing through and heading out to sea.

Stormsfury · #15 Postby **Stormsfury** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:31 pm

Hurricane Hattie in 1961. It had three names for potentially the same storm.

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/doctor.htm

Josephine96 · #16 Postby **Josephine96** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:03 pm

My vote would have been for Gordon in 1994 as well

ColdFront77 · #17 Postby **ColdFront77** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 11:58 pm

tropicalweatherwatcher wrote:Georges 7 Landfalls from the time he first struck the Lesser Antilles till the time he was blown out over Mississippi

shaner · #18 Postby **shaner** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 7:20 am

From a Canadian perspective, without a doubt Hazel was the strangest. No other hurricane has ever made it to Toronto as an intact Cat 1 storm.

Up to 81 Canadians died in Hurricane Hazel, with 32 of those people dying on Raymroe St. in what is now west-end Toronto. She also did the worst flooding damage ever in the Toronto area.
http://www.disastershq.com/features/hazel.asp

JCT777 · #19 Postby **JCT777** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:41 am

I think last year's Kyle was pretty odd, not only for his unusual track but also the fluctuating strength between TD and Cat 1 Hurricane. I believe he went from TD to TS either 5 or 6 different times.

Stormsfury · #20 Postby **Stormsfury** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:03 pm

JCT777 wrote:I think last year's Kyle was pretty odd, not only for his unusual track but also the fluctuating strength between TD and Cat 1 Hurricane. I believe he went from TD to TS either 5 or 6 different times.

That's right, it did it 5 times.

SF

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