Larry has been moving ESE!

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Larry has been moving ESE!

#1 Postby caneman » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:12 am

Has went .4 South and .8 East. from 11:00 last night til the 8:00 advisory this morning. Clearly ESE. COuld the AVN from last night turn out right. COuld this end up in the NW caribbean? PErhaps this is the system a couple models had been picking up on on the NW Caribb. Interesting.
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#2 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:27 am

Let's see where the position at 10 AM CDT will be and see if a true direction is seen or the stall continues.
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#3 Postby rainstorm » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:41 am

would be very odd if it crossed the yucatan from the west
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#4 Postby caneman » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:48 am

And would represent a whole new ballgame. Not sure if this is temporary but 9 hours would seem more like a trend. NHC has went from SW to South to now SSE movement when clearly it's been more ESE or SE all along. I suppose they like to keep continuity without jumping all over the place. 11:00 Advisory should be interesting.
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#5 Postby weatherluvr » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:48 am

I doubt it means much. With systems like this it's not unusual for the center fix to jump around. Still looks on course for a southern landfall.
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Re: Larry has been moving ESE!

#6 Postby donsutherland1 » Sat Oct 04, 2003 8:34 am

Caneman,

Given the very weak steering currents and some influence from a trough, it is not entirely surprising that Larry has drifted a little to the east in recent hours. It has been moving eratically for some time, so this is not a significant development with huge ramifications for Florida or the eastern Gulf States.

Although, this drift might alter its final point of landfall to some extent, it remains extremely likely that landfall will still occur in Mexico.

Moreover, the trough's influence will diminish later today and tomorrow as the trough moves away from Larry. It will not be able to take hold of Larry (too small, too far south) and recurve it. Thus, odds remain very much against Larry's ever moving into the northwestern Caribbean.

Finally, when it comes to such storms that drift almost aimlessly in the BOC, it can be tempting to conclude that each shift in track holds new possibilities. Even the computer models can sometimes have difficulty handling such storms, resulting in poor run-to-run consistency at times--which, for the most part, has not yet been the case with regard to Larry. Thus, historical seasonal climatology offers important guidance to help deal with the uncertainty. Combined, these tools suggest a Mexico landfall appears all but certain and a move into the northwestern Caribbean appears remote.
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#7 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Oct 04, 2003 4:43 pm

This is proof of what an erratically moving tropical cyclone does.

From the start Larry wasn't expected to not move much, meaning a difficult forecast.
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