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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2881 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:56 am

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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2882 Postby SoupBone » Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:01 am



I've watched SAL over the last several days, and it does appear to be another push of dry air coming. It's clearly still very dry out there too.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2883 Postby hcane27 » Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:41 am

Maybe this happened in 2013 ?
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2886 Postby skyline385 » Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:55 am

SoupBone wrote:


I've watched SAL over the last several days, and it does appear to be another push of dry air coming. It's clearly still very dry out there too.

Yea it’s another outbreak, showing on the models too

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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2887 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:18 am

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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2888 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:21 am

hcane27 wrote:Maybe this happened in 2013 ?

2017 had a Mid-August SAL outbreak, then came Harvey and Irma and the rest was history.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2889 Postby LarryWx » Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:31 am

skyline385 wrote:
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I've watched SAL over the last several days, and it does appear to be another push of dry air coming. It's clearly still very dry out there too.

Yea it’s another outbreak, showing on the models too

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This newest SAL appears to me to be the main thing that tries to prevent the AEW now just off Africa from developing.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2890 Postby LarryWx » Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:36 am

Is anyone here familiar with the climo of TCs that originate in August from the ITCZ near S America? I'm asking because the 6Z GEFS rather heavily threatens FL/Gulf coast mainly from something just off S America. Are there any notable storms in the past that did this in August? This seems quite unusual and makes me wonder if the 6Z GEFS members doing this are likely bogus.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2891 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:37 am

LarryWx wrote:
skyline385 wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
I've watched SAL over the last several days, and it does appear to be another push of dry air coming. It's clearly still very dry out there too.

Yea it’s another outbreak, showing on the models too

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220818/5ead5d488ef14b6cac20849938d6f04b.jpg


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This newest SAL appears to me to be the main thing that tries to prevent the AEW now just off Africa from developing.


I'd like to know what the gefs is picking up on bringing to Florida it has been rather persistent with that idea. Unless off course its bluff which it might be.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2892 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:53 am

LarryWx wrote:Is anyone here familiar with the climo of TCs that originate in August from the ITCZ near S America? I'm asking because the 6Z GEFS rather heavily threatens FL/Gulf coast mainly from something just off S America. Are there any notable storms in the past that did this in August? This seems quite unusual and makes me wonder if the 6Z GEFS members doing this are likely bogus.


It's not a common thing for sure.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2893 Postby LarryWx » Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:59 am

SFLcane wrote:
LarryWx wrote:Is anyone here familiar with the climo of TCs that originate in August from the ITCZ near S America? I'm asking because the 6Z GEFS rather heavily threatens FL/Gulf coast mainly from something just off S America. Are there any notable storms in the past that did this in August? This seems quite unusual and makes me wonder if the 6Z GEFS members doing this are likely bogus.


It's not a common thing for sure.


Thanks. I just went back to 1995 and couldn't find even a single storm that did anything like this in any month. I thought perhaps Gustav of 2008 and Isidore of 2002, but the wiki writeups for both of these said they both originated solely from AEWs. I'll go back before 1995 and see if I can find any.

Edit: I then went all of the way back to 1950 and still found nothing like what the 6Z GEFS did from off of S America in any month. So, I'm calling this bogus at this point.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2894 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:16 am

LarryWx wrote:
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LarryWx wrote:Is anyone here familiar with the climo of TCs that originate in August from the ITCZ near S America? I'm asking because the 6Z GEFS rather heavily threatens FL/Gulf coast mainly from something just off S America. Are there any notable storms in the past that did this in August? This seems quite unusual and makes me wonder if the 6Z GEFS members doing this are likely bogus.


It's not a common thing for sure.


Thanks. I just went back to 1995 and couldn't find even a single storm that did anything like this in any month. I thought perhaps Gustav of 2008 and Isidore of 2002, but the wiki writeups for both of these said they both originated solely from AEWs. I'll go back before 1995 and see if I can find any.

Edit: I then went all of the way back to 1950 and still found nothing like what the 6Z GEFS did from off of S America in any month. So, I'm calling this bogus at this point.


This entire season thus far has been bogus.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2895 Postby aspen » Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:44 am

The next 10 days are going to make or break this season. If we don’t see an uptick in activity in the deep tropics by the end of the month, then the uptick probably won’t come. I’m not aware of any active season that starting going after September 1st.

And by an uptick, I mean a couple of storms forming or soon to form over a period of a week or so. If future 99L develops but there are no more systems throughout August and the models are still pushing back MDR activity, then it’ll be safe to call this season an absolute bust.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2896 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:45 am

No sign of any of that nonsense the GEFS has
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2898 Postby Teban54 » Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:00 pm

aspen wrote:The next 10 days are going to make or break this season. If we don’t see an uptick in activity in the deep tropics by the end of the month, then the uptick probably won’t come. I’m not aware of any active season that starting going after September 1st.

And by an uptick, I mean a couple of storms forming or soon to form over a period of a week or so. If future 99L develops but there are no more systems throughout August and the models are still pushing back MDR activity, then it’ll be safe to call this season an absolute bust.

1961:
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That season ended with 189 ACE, yet only a single storm formed prior to September.
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#2899 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:06 pm

Teban54 wrote:
aspen wrote:The next 10 days are going to make or break this season. If we don’t see an uptick in activity in the deep tropics by the end of the month, then the uptick probably won’t come. I’m not aware of any active season that starting going after September 1st.

And by an uptick, I mean a couple of storms forming or soon to form over a period of a week or so. If future 99L develops but there are no more systems throughout August and the models are still pushing back MDR activity, then it’ll be safe to call this season an absolute bust.

1961:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/6vb1b5fwlf363fqxe6xire3n6ab7om4.png
That season ended with 189 ACE, yet only a single storm formed prior to September.


LOL let's tell ourselves that.
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