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Fastest intensifications

#1 Postby arkestra » Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:38 am

Hello,

It seems these days cyclones are intensifying faster and faster... However, I wonder if somebody here has a list of fastest intensifications worldwide, to check if those statements are indeed true or not.

Thank you,

M.
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#2 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:22 am

I don't know about worldwide, but off the top of my head, I know that multiple storms have bombed in the GOM. When I read your title, the first storm that popped into my head was Hurricane Humberto from a few years ago that went from an invest to a hurricane in 24 hours or something like that.
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#3 Postby StormClouds63 » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:37 am

As I remember, didn't Rita (2005) go from a tropical storm to category 5 hurricane in about 36 hours ... as it passed south of the Florida peninsula, north of the Keys, and into the east-central GOM.
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#4 Postby KWT » Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:06 pm

I'm not sure thats really the case, it may well be more to do with the fact that we are just getting better at clocking when these RI events are underway, I'm sure there has always been storms that have exploded into life at a very quick pace.
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#5 Postby StormClouds63 » Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:02 pm

On a somewhat related topic, I think Hurricane Lili (2002) intensified, and subsequently weakened, at a faster rate than any other Gulf storm on record.

Went from a category 1 to a category 4 very quickly in the central Gulf, then weakened back to a Category 1 at landfall (east of Lake Charles). We have an approaching trough, plus the passage of Isidore about 10 days before, to thank for Lili weakening so rapidly. Had it been mid-August instead of early October, the results would have been a lot different.

Here's a nice write-up on Lili's remarkable weakening prior to landfall:
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/new ... _lili.html
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#6 Postby ftolmsteen » Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:55 pm

According to wikipedia Hurricane Wilma dropped from 981 to 882 mbar in 24 hours making it the fastest intensifying hurricane in the atlantic.
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#7 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:34 pm

Super Typhoon Forrest in 1983 dropped down 976 mb to 876 mb in 24 hours.
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#8 Postby Tireman4 » Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:10 pm

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#9 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:05 pm

Tireman4 wrote:What about Opal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Opal


Hurricane Opal was a large hurricane, even larger than Katrina, yet it under went rapid intensification. Also, Hurricane Ike did as well when it was in the open Atlantic.
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#10 Postby Ad Novoxium » Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:26 am

Typhoon Chebi in the WPac intensified 60 mbar in just twelve hours or, if I can understand the map, one advisory. http://agora.ex.nii.ac.jp/digital-typhoon/summary/wnp/l/200620.html.en
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#11 Postby KWT » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:16 am

Ptarmigan wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:What about Opal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Opal


Hurricane Opal was a large hurricane, even larger than Katrina, yet it under went rapid intensification. Also, Hurricane Ike did as well when it was in the open Atlantic.


It wasn't that big when it was undergoing RI, it was only once it started to weaken did it develop a much larger eye...the eye was just 6 miles wide during Opal's RI....then grew in a huge way after the RI finished.
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#12 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:49 pm

KWT wrote:
It wasn't that big when it was undergoing RI, it was only once it started to weaken did it develop a much larger eye...the eye was just 6 miles wide during Opal's RI....then grew in a huge way after the RI finished.


According to the Best Track, as Opal intensified, it grew larger.
ftp://rammftp.cira.colostate.edu/demari ... k_atlc.txt

Every time I see Opal, I could barely see an eye.
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#13 Postby MGC » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:25 pm

Lowest CP in Opal was 916mb, making Opal the deepest Cat-4 on record. NW Florida was fortunate that Opal underwent an eyewall replacement cycle before landfall reducing its winds to minimal Cat-3 intensity. Opal bombed while crossing the loop current, just like Camille, Katrina and Rita did. Key is having a large anti-cyclone aloft.....MGC
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#14 Postby HurrikaneBryce » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:07 pm

I know this isn't intensification but, Hurricane Mitch was a powerful category 5 with winds of 180 mph on October 26, 1998 and 3 days later it made landfall as a category 1 in Honduras.
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#15 Postby HurrikaneBryce » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:14 pm

Appearently Hurricane Ethel in 1960 went from a Tropical Storm to a Category 5 in 18 hours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Ethel_(1960)
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#16 Postby Macrocane » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:46 pm

Hurricane Felix (2007) went from TD to cat 5 in 51 hours according to wikipedia.

And this is what the TCR says about the intensification of Felix:

Felix’s winds increased by 115 kt – from 35 kt to 150 kt – in the 48 h period ending at 0000 UTC 3 September. In the 24-h period ending at that time, the winds increased by 85 kt. In the history of Atlantic tropical cyclones, only Hurricane Wilma of 2005 is known to have intensified faster over 24- and 48-h periods.
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#17 Postby jinftl » Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:39 pm

From the NHC report on Hurricane Wilma:

It should be added that the largest 6-, 12-, and 24-h drops in best track central pressure for Wilma, 54 mb from 0000 to 0600 UTC 19 October, 83 mb from 1800 UTC 18 October to 0600 UTC 19 October, and 97 mb from 1200 UTC 18 October to 1200 UTC 19 October, respectively, are by far the largest in the available records for these periods going back to 1851.

The previous record 6-h deepening was 38 mb in Hurricane Beulah, September 1967, the previous record 12-h deepening was 48 mb in Hurricane Allen, August 1980, and the previous record 24-h deepening was 72 mb in Hurricane Gilbert, September 1988.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL252005_Wilma.pdf
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#18 Postby arkestra » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:30 am

It looks there's plenty of different forms of intensification. Do you believe they are indeed intensifying faster or not? Isn't it just the means to detect such intensifications thar are getting better?
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#19 Postby artist » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:27 am

I can't believe you guys haven't mentioned Charlie! :D
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Re: Fastest intensifications

#20 Postby Recurve » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:59 pm

I hadn't realized how many storms intensified rapidly but aren't known as some of the worst of all time...Felix, Ethel, etc.

Minor correction to StormClouds63 -- Rita passed south of the mainland and the Keys.

The benchmark for me is always Labor Day (1935) because its intensification brought it to cat 5 at landfall, from tropical storm within about 36 hours. No dropsondes then of course.

Wilma was indeed....incredible.
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