2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#701 Postby MHC Tracking » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:07 am

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cycloneye wrote:NHC does not bite yet.


Just another GFS modelcane. It's all by itself in predicting anything significant developing. It also has quite strong wind shear in the region.

The intensity the GFS depicts is almost certainly fantasy. The formation in itself? Given ICON and ECM have begun to latch on to a potential disturbance, with the former developing it into a weak tropical cyclone, this signal is likely more legitimate than other Caribbean GFS fantasies imo, especially given the short-range TCG it depicts. We shall see though.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#702 Postby skyline385 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:18 am

Dont see this happening but its always fun to watch a good modelcane :D

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#703 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:37 am

I think something will come of it. Perhaps a weak, BoC spinup like TS Danielle in 2016.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#704 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:28 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:I think something will come of it. Perhaps a weak, BoC spinup like TS Danielle in 2016.


Climatology favors this type of setup given the time of year, but you need the weather to cooperate too.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#705 Postby MHC Tracking » Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:31 pm

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#706 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:34 pm

Ok folks, there is a thread now for the SW Caribbean where you can post the model runs for this area.

https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 9#p2971009
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#707 Postby skyline385 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:07 pm

Didnt see the 12Z GEFS posted, the MDR activity is picking up

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#708 Postby Teban54 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:50 pm

skyline385 wrote:Didnt see the 12Z GEFS posted, the MDR activity is picking up

https://i.imgur.com/vrHzmpY.png

Piggybacking on the 2-for-2 2013 matches for the first two storms (that Hazelton just tweeted), if we do get a TS in the MDR just like Chantal '13, that would make it 3-for-3 :lol:
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#709 Postby skyline385 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:10 pm

Teban54 wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Didnt see the 12Z GEFS posted, the MDR activity is picking up

https://i.imgur.com/vrHzmpY.png

Piggybacking on the 2-for-2 2013 matches for the first two storms (that Hazelton just tweeted), if we do get a TS in the MDR just like Chantal '13, that would make it 3-for-3 :lol:


If that happens, Philip K will be sweating hard :lol:
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#710 Postby NotSparta » Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:39 am

skyline385 wrote:Didnt see the 12Z GEFS posted, the MDR activity is picking up

https://i.imgur.com/vrHzmpY.png


lol some of these are funny to look at. Probably not a huge surprise though given that there will be some very strong waves in the MDR. A few members then overdo things
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#711 Postby skyline385 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:23 am

More MDR members on 0Z

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#712 Postby kevin » Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:54 am



Just for historical perspective, the earliest typical MDR storm (so an east to west cruiser which slowly curves north) is the 1933 Trinitad hurricane (June 24) and Elsa (June 30) last year. If you want a traditional CV storm which originates even further east (as some of those members are suggesting) than Bertha from 2008 (July 4) is probably the earliest known example. Alice 1954 (Dec 30 - Jan 6), 1938 January hurricane (Jan 1 - Jan 6), and the 1908 March hurricane (Mar 6 - Mar 9) also all passed through the MDR, but didn't stay there for very long, followed an atypical NE track and/or didn't originate in the MDR so I wouldn't really count them as 'MDR storms' in the way that we think about them.

1933 Trinitad hurricane

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#713 Postby tolakram » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:02 am

6Z GFS in fantasy range hits New Orleans again. While completely silly these long range predictions do show a level of favorability in the area. In other words, when conditions are unfavorable the GFS tends to not spin up model canes.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#714 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:37 am

kevin wrote:


Just for historical perspective, the earliest typical MDR storm (so an east to west cruiser which slowly curves north) is the 1933 Trinitad hurricane (June 24) and Elsa (June 30) last year. If you want a traditional CV storm which originates even further east (as some of those members are suggesting) than Bertha from 2008 (July 4) is probably the earliest known example. Alice 1954 (Dec 30 - Jan 6), 1938 January hurricane (Jan 1 - Jan 6), and the 1908 March hurricane (Mar 6 - Mar 9) also all passed through the MDR, but didn't stay there for very long, followed an atypical NE track and/or didn't originate in the MDR so I wouldn't really count them as 'MDR storms' in the way that we think about them.

1933 Trinitad hurricane

https://i.imgur.com/UM3f3Zr.png

Elsa

https://i.imgur.com/YPgaLZ0.png

Bertha

https://i.imgur.com/mptg0gi.png


Aside from hurricanes, in recent memory there is also Tropical Storm Bret (2017).
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#715 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:12 am

So the 00z GFS apparently really hates Texas and wants to drown it later this month :lol:
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#716 Postby Edwards Limestone » Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:42 am

Category5Kaiju wrote:So the 00z GFS apparently really hates Texas and wants to drown it later this month :lol:


I'm not sure hate is right descriptor...I hope it rains 40 inches
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#717 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:09 pm

Edwards Limestone wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:So the 00z GFS apparently really hates Texas and wants to drown it later this month :lol:


I'm not sure hate is right descriptor...I hope it rains 40 inches


Not all at once. All the water would run-off, flood homes, and not soak into the ground. Spread out those 40 inches over 20 days. 2 inches a day.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#718 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:03 pm

Those are some impressive wave coming off Africa. That next one that is going to come off looks very impressive for this early
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#719 Postby skyline385 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:29 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:Those are some impressive wave coming off Africa. That next one that is going to come off looks very impressive for this early


There is some activity on the ensembles, also the active phase of the MJO is moving over the Atlantic which should help TCG

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#720 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:10 pm

The smaller one in front actually has some spin to it.
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