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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa that may develop

#61 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:06 am

Extending to 240 hours of the Euro ensembles, the concern mounts bigtime. It will be all about how the ridge will be.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa that may develop

#62 Postby WeatherBoy2000 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:07 am

This wave has pretty much everything going for it to be a long tracking major Cape Verde storm:

Favorable conditions
Record warm ssts
Coming off at a low latitude
Peak climo
A building ridge
very high model support

Although the Atlantic can be surprising, I don't see much of anything going against this wave for development.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa that may develop

#63 Postby Ianswfl » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:20 am

SFLcane wrote:06z EPS very bullish one thing indeed that has my attention is this time around the strong members are actually to the south could be due to a strengthing ridge overhead as Idalia departs. This one has trouble all over it but well see.

https://i.postimg.cc/6QDQGCTG/hhhh.png


Yea, they're south of 00z. This could be our irma this year for the east coast and fl. A lot worse than idalia.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa that may develop

#64 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:26 am

Is very early to have comparisons with past strong hurricanes. Let it be an Invest first, then see how the ridge behaves and go from there.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa that may develop

#65 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:58 am

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa that may develop

#66 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:07 am

I was looking at long range GFS and I can’t tell if it’s this storm that it brings across PR, Bahamas and then up the SEUS coast line.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa that may develop

#67 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:12 am

The key will be if there is a building ridge off the east coast. If it's just a weakening ridge, more chance than not it will find a weakness to scoot out. There doesn't necessarily have to be a big trough to pick it up. Long way out so we'll see!
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#68 Postby BobHarlem » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:32 am

The Nhc's Tropical Cyclone Advisories are numbered 1-5 with them reusing it after 5. Right now there are 5. What happens if they need a 6th active system? (Right now all 5 are being used)
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#69 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:45 am

GFS 12z running, here we go.
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#70 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:46 am

AutoPenalti wrote:GFS 12z running, here we go.


Full recurve out to sea? :lol:
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#71 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:53 am

SFLcane wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:GFS 12z running, here we go.


Full recurve out to sea? :lol:

Just now realizing how slow this system will be moving... next Friday it will still be closing in on the Islands.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa that may develop

#72 Postby IcyTundra » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:53 am



I’m always hearing about the LRC. I have a hard time believing that it is possible to predict these things that far out. Does anyone know if there has been any research papers done on the LRC (Lezak Recurring Cycle)?
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#73 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:54 am

ICON coming in south of last run and weaker.
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Re: RE: Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#74 Postby Woofde » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:58 am

AutoPenalti wrote:ICON coming in south of last run and weaker.
Weaker and a stronger ridge on this run. I've grown to respect the ICON after seeing how it's performed in recent years. An underrated model imo.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa that may develop

#75 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:58 am


I agree with the sentiment of this tweet, but that guy is walking red flag imo. Every tweet he makes referring to his LRC involves a current weather event, and about a prediction supposedly made x months ago that he either never posted, or did post and it was so broad it might as well be climatology (I.e. “significant threat around 9/12” made 10 months ago). Weird to see content like this from a degreed meteorologist, knowing full well that we are nowhere close to being able to make specific predictions months in advance.

Sorry for the sidetrack, back to the regularly scheduled program
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Re: RE: Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#76 Postby IcyTundra » Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:02 am

Woofde wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:ICON coming in south of last run and weaker.
Weaker and a stronger ridge on this run. I've grown to respect the ICON after seeing how it's performed in recent years. An underrated model imo.


Right there with the CMC in contention for the 3rd best global model. In fact it might have already passed up the CMC I would have to look at it’s verification from the last few hurricane seasons to see for sure.
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#77 Postby chris_fit » Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:08 am

12Z GFS much weaker through 126 Hours

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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#78 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:10 am

chris_fit wrote:12Z GFS much weaker through 126 Hours

https://i.imgur.com/E3p5uFX.gif


Poof! Can't ever take this model serious lol.
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#79 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:12 am

SFLcane wrote:
chris_fit wrote:12Z GFS much weaker through 126 Hours

https://i.imgur.com/E3p5uFX.gif


Poof! Can't ever take this model serious lol.

I think it's just forming later..
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Re: Tropical Wave Near the Coast of Africa

#80 Postby IcyTundra » Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:12 am

Can’t take the GFS too seriously.
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