Surface Trough East of Florida (Is Invest 90L)

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#61 Postby gatorcane » Sun May 03, 2015 3:14 pm

12Z ECMWF showing the low at it's peak - not looking too bad considering it is only early May:

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#62 Postby tolakram » Sun May 03, 2015 3:58 pm

If it's anything like last year the Euro sniffs it out long range, then has issues mid range, then will pick it back up short range. It will be interesting to see if this season, or at least this storm, shows the same pattern.
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#63 Postby NDG » Sun May 03, 2015 4:02 pm

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#64 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sun May 03, 2015 4:18 pm

NWS ILM AFD:

.LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/...
AS OF 3 PM SUNDAY...THE ENTIRETY OF THE LONG TERM WILL FOCUS ON
WHAT IS EXPECTED TO BECOME A HYBRID/SUB-TROPICAL LOW OFF MEANDERING
OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST. LARGE AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER WILL MOVE
OUT OF THE CARIBBEAN AND THEN STRENGTHEN INTO A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM
WELL OFFSHORE. THIS OCCURS IN A REGION OF VERY WEAK STEERING FLOW IN
THE VICINITY OF A LARGE MID-LEVEL RIDGE ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST...AND
THUS THERE IS VERY LITTLE CONFIDENCE IN WHAT THIS SYSTEM WILL DO
ONCE IT DEVELOPS...AND GUIDANCE IS ALL OVER THE PLACE IN HOW THE LOW
WILL TRACK. HOWEVER...THERE IS INCREASING CONFIDENCE THAT A HYBRID-
LOW WILL DEVELOP...BECOMING WARM CORE AND LIKELY STRENGTHENING
THANKS TO A COMBINATION OF LATENT HEAT RELEASE FROM 80 DEGREE WATERS
IN THE GULF STREAM...BAROCLINIC INSTABILITY DUE TO CHANGE IN WATER
TEMPS NEAR THE COAST...AND GOOD VENTILATION THROUGH DIFFLUENCE
ALOFT. WILL NOT MAKE ANY WHOLESALE CHANGES TO POP/WX IN THE EXTENDED
DUE TO SUCH LOW CONFIDENCE...AND WILL MAINTAIN THE INHERITED POP FOR
THE THU-SUN TIMEFRAME...HIGHEST CHANCE AT THE COAST. STILL...CANNOT
FOCUS ON ANY SPECIFIC DAY BEING THE MOST FAVORABLE FOR PRECIP AS THE
GUIDANCE ENVELOPE IS SO WIDE. ON THE BRIGHT SIDE...TEMPS THROUGH THE
PERIOD SHOULD BE ABOVE CLIMO...ESPECIALLY AWAY FROM THE COAST.
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#65 Postby gatorcane » Sun May 03, 2015 4:24 pm

SSTs are warm enough to support tropical development as you can see by this SSTs graphic, in fact they are about 2-3F above normal in the area the models want to develop the low. It is clear where the Gulf stream is off the SE U.S. coast:

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Re: Potential Development off the Southeast U.S. Coastline

#66 Postby floridasun78 » Sun May 03, 2015 4:29 pm

NWS ILM AFD???? what weather station that?
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#67 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sun May 03, 2015 4:31 pm

floridasun78 wrote:NWS ILM AFD???? what weather station that?

NWS ILM is the local office here in Wilmington, North Carolina.
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#68 Postby floridasun78 » Sun May 03, 2015 4:34 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:NWS ILM AFD???? what weather station that?

NWS ILM is the local office here in Wilmington, North Carolina.

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#69 Postby floridasun78 » Sun May 03, 2015 4:35 pm

here in miami we may see alot rain too
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#70 Postby gatorcane » Sun May 03, 2015 8:03 pm

Convection on the increase, saved rainbow loop:

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#71 Postby TheAustinMan » Sun May 03, 2015 8:28 pm

Some things to watch for for the remainder of tonight (May 3, 2015).

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What you are looking at: Annotated satellite map showing some features of note. Not official!
Source: Annotations mine. Background image NASA/MSFC
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#72 Postby SeGaBob » Sun May 03, 2015 8:51 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
SeGaBob wrote:SPECIAL TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1030 AM EDT SUN MAY 3 2015



For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

A non-tropical area of low pressure is expected to form north of
the Bahamas later this week. This system could gradually acquire
some subtropical characteristics by Thursday or Friday as it moves
slowly northward. The next Special Tropical Weather Outlook will be
issued on this system by 11 AM EDT Monday.

* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent

$$
Forecaster Brennan

TWO 5-Day Graphic. :darrow:
*Note that the 30% chance of development is now categorized as a Low(Yellow) chance of development instead of Medium(Orange) like in the past.
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Thanks for posting that... it wasn't on the page earlier when I looked for it. :)
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#73 Postby 404UserNotFound » Sun May 03, 2015 11:07 pm

Sure seems a lot like Beryl.
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#74 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon May 04, 2015 12:01 am

404UserNotFound wrote:Sure seems a lot like Beryl.


Seems like that one could be a good analog storm but I'm more partial to something like Andrea in 2007 and the date wouldn't be all that different from Andrea

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#75 Postby tolakram » Mon May 04, 2015 7:04 am

0Z Euro
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0Z GFS
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6Z GFS
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For fun, the 0Z Canadian. Just a bit overboard IMO.
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#76 Postby gatorcane » Mon May 04, 2015 7:54 am

First VIS loop, looks like a good spin near the Isle of Youth south of Cuba that is mostly void of convection at the moment with most of the convection on the right side. In fact 850MB vorticity chart confirms:

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#77 Postby NDG » Mon May 04, 2015 7:57 am

This is probably the strongest the latest GFS forecasts this potential system to be.

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... s=0&ypos=1
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#78 Postby tolakram » Mon May 04, 2015 8:16 am

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#79 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon May 04, 2015 9:01 am

SPECIAL TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1000 AM EDT MON MAY 4 2015

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

A non-tropical area of low pressure is expected to form near the
northwestern Bahamas around midweek. This system could gradually
acquire some subtropical characteristics by Thursday or Friday as it
moves generally northward at a slow forward speed. The next Special
Tropical Weather Outlook will be issued on this system by 11 AM EDT
Tuesday.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent

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Forecaster Kimberlain
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#80 Postby TheAustinMan » Mon May 04, 2015 9:16 am



The interesting thing about that GFS model run is that it brings the storm to a landfall in the Savannah, Georgia area.
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