MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#61 Postby cycloneye » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:54 pm

Derek,but 2005 had plenty of sal.
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#62 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:53 am

cycloneye wrote:Derek,but 2005 had plenty of sal.


only Irene was SAL affected

The SAL disappeared after that. The dry air could be traced to the mid-latitudes, not the Sahara afterward

tell tale sign as to whether the dry air is SAL or mid latitudes... if the wave/TC is moving fast, it is SAL
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#63 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 08, 2010 6:56 pm

The CFS model has also lower pressures in the MDR and Caribbean as ECMWF on August and September.

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#64 Postby Aquawind » Sat May 08, 2010 7:26 pm

I really don't like that SW-NE orientation of those pressures over Florida in September..
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#65 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 08, 2010 7:44 pm

Aquawind wrote:I really don't like that SW-NE orientation of those pressures over Florida in September..


Another important thing to note Paul is the blocking pattern to the north in Canada that the models have.
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#66 Postby BigA » Sat May 08, 2010 7:54 pm

cycloneye wrote:Another important thing to note Paul is the blocking pattern to the north in Canada that the models have.


How would the blocking pattern over Canada influence tropical cyclone tracks?
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#67 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 08, 2010 8:09 pm

BigA wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Another important thing to note Paul is the blocking pattern to the north in Canada that the models have.


How would the blocking pattern over Canada influence tropical cyclone tracks?


If there is blocking up in Canada,the systems have a bee-line towards the NE Caribbean,Bahamas,Florida,GOM.
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#68 Postby KWT » Sat May 08, 2010 8:17 pm

Yep, if you have higher then normal pressure in Canada then that means the Troughs that would normally help scope the storms for recurve won't be around as often.

It means any system that gets west of say 50-55W without starting to recurve will as Cyclonee said, have a much better chance of risking land.

It's probably part of the reason why Joe B is worried about this season...
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#69 Postby Blown Away » Sat May 08, 2010 9:10 pm

Looking at the September map, doesn't that setup have weakness off the CONUS that would allow recurves offshore?
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#70 Postby boca » Sat May 08, 2010 10:56 pm

Actually that map shows isobars but I'm not sure how to read it.
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#71 Postby brunota2003 » Sun May 09, 2010 2:16 pm

Looks like any storms that do recurve would ride right up the east coast, and possibly loop around if they get blocked out.
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#72 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 14, 2010 11:05 am

The May outlook by ECMWF for the period of July,August and September for sea level pressures continues to show no changes from past months ones and that is lower pressures in the MDR,Caribbean Sea and parts of the Western Atlantic.The blue colors indicate lower pressures while the red colors indicate higher pressures.

ECMWF May MSLP forecast for July,August and September
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#73 Postby ronjon » Fri May 14, 2010 1:11 pm

Boy, compare April's ECM forecast for JJA with May's forecast for JAS - much darker blue across the entire tropical atlantic (>70% chance) for lower pressures - darn right scary.

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts/d/charts/seasonal/forecast/eurosip/group_euro_public/seasonal_charts_mslp!mean%20sea%20level%20pressure!tercile%20summary!2%20months!Tropics!201004!/
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#74 Postby Blown Away » Fri May 14, 2010 2:10 pm

cycloneye wrote:The May outlook by ECMWF for the period of July,August and September for sea level pressures continues to show no changes from past months ones and that is lower pressures in the MDR,Caribbean Sea and parts of the Western Atlantic.The blue colors indicate lower pressures while the red colors indicate higher pressures.

ECMWF May MSLP forecast for July,August and September


How does this forecast compare to other active years like 2005, 1998, 1995, etc?
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#75 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 14, 2010 2:50 pm

Blown Away wrote:
cycloneye wrote:The May outlook by ECMWF for the period of July,August and September for sea level pressures continues to show no changes from past months ones and that is lower pressures in the MDR,Caribbean Sea and parts of the Western Atlantic.The blue colors indicate lower pressures while the red colors indicate higher pressures.

ECMWF May MSLP forecast for July,August and September


How does this forecast compare to other active years like 2005, 1998, 1995, etc?


In the link to the left you can see the month section and it goes only to August 2008.
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#76 Postby thetruesms » Fri May 14, 2010 3:37 pm

Blown Away wrote:How does this forecast compare to other active years like 2005, 1998, 1995, etc?
It's not quite like what you're asking for, but here is a plot of SLP anomalies for JAS in 1995, 1998, and 2005

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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#77 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 22, 2010 9:07 am

August September and October MSLP forecast by ECMWF

The update by ECMWF MSLP forecast for August,September and October continues to call for below average pressures in the MDR,Caribbean and GOM.

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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#78 Postby cycloneye » Sun May 23, 2010 9:05 pm

Sorry that I have more bad news about the season being very active,but the truth has to come out. If you thought that the CFS model was going to be less bullish on the lower pressures in the Atlantic ,Caribbean and GOM than ECMWF,well,is worse. The blue colors mean lower pressures and the red higher pressures.The side you have to watch in the graphics is the right side.

MSLP CFS forecast for July August and September

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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#79 Postby BigA » Sun May 23, 2010 11:09 pm

What do the number gradations mean on the CMS maps? Does the -0.5 line indicate that average pressures will be 0.5 mb lower than climatological average, for example?
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season

#80 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:18 pm

The June forecast of MSLP from ECMWF for the peak months (ASO) of the season is out and is has not changed from the past 3 month forecasts.In other words lower pressures in the MDR,Caribbean and GOM.

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