2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability, (Day 16+ Climate Models)
Today marks 100 days until the official start of the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season!
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability, (Day 16+ Climate Models)
CyclonicFury wrote:Today marks 100 days until the official start of the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season!
I don't know why, but the time seems to go faster after this milestone.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability, (Day 16+ Climate Models)
The latest readings of the sst anomalys from Coral Reef and OISST in MDR have been some decrease, but not a lot, and there is right now the +NAO.
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Very early thoughts on the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season
This map represents all hurricane tracks in the Atlantic Basin during years where there was a developing La Nina going into hurricane season and the strength was weak to moderate during ASO.
Years used (Very unscientific): 1898,1906, 1924, 1933, 1938, 1942, 1954, 1964, 1967, 1970, 2007 (I'm sure I missed a few).
The spray of storms is focused more west in the basin and is definitely in line with 2024 early season predictions and consistent IMO of stronger ridging and La Nina influence.
I assume adding the extra SST fuel and lower shear results in a very active season and there are a few representatives of this in the sample group.
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Re: Very early thoughts on the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season
Blown Away wrote:[url]https://i.postimg.cc/GpS2ZsyN/La-Nina-Years.jpg [/url]
This map represents all hurricane tracks in the Atlantic Basin during years where there was a developing La Nina going into hurricane season and the strength was weak to moderate during ASO.
Years used (Very unscientific): 1898,1906, 1924, 1933, 1938, 1942, 1954, 1964, 1967, 1970, 2007 (I'm sure I missed a few).
The spray of storms is focused more west in the basin and is definitely in line with 2024 early season predictions and consistent IMO of stronger ridging and La Nina influence.
I assume adding the extra SST fuel and lower shear results in a very active season and there are a few representatives of this in the sample group.
What I dont like at all is the very active Caribbean among those years mentioned.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
As I posted yesterday, not a lot of a drop.
https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1761012386859729359
https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1761012386859729359
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
cycloneye wrote:As I posted yesterday, not a lot of a drop.
https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1761012386859729359
https://twitter.com/cyclonicwx/status/1761185573480341747
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
In case you're looking for a (nervous?) laugh: SSTs now subtracted from how they looked at the start of the 2018 hurricane season.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
DorkyMcDorkface wrote:In case you're looking for a (nervous?) laugh: SSTs now subtracted from how they looked at the start of the 2018 hurricane season.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/290a2edf5059ab5a13a8f35ac426bd5ba0e91ccce567a2c6c842b818dce89281.gif
quite literally the exact opposite - incredible!
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
mixedDanilo.E wrote:DorkyMcDorkface wrote:In case you're looking for a (nervous?) laugh: SSTs now subtracted from how they looked at the start of the 2018 hurricane season.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/290a2edf5059ab5a13a8f35ac426bd5ba0e91ccce567a2c6c842b818dce89281.gif
quite literally the exact opposite - incredible!
Yeah just about...
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
DorkyMcDorkface wrote:In case you're looking for a (nervous?) laugh: SSTs now subtracted from how they looked at the start of the 2018 hurricane season.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/290a2edf5059ab5a13a8f35ac426bd5ba0e91ccce567a2c6c842b818dce89281.gif
I think we need a "nervous laughing" Smilie ASAP. It would be very useful before and during this 2024 season.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
DorkyMcDorkface wrote:mixedDanilo.E wrote:DorkyMcDorkface wrote:In case you're looking for a (nervous?) laugh: SSTs now subtracted from how they looked at the start of the 2018 hurricane season.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/290a2edf5059ab5a13a8f35ac426bd5ba0e91ccce567a2c6c842b818dce89281.gif
quite literally the exact opposite - incredible!
Yeah just about...
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3387b2d70141329b01b4656fb87072330a86290cb9b837939dbe05a23468f4df.gif
Not only is the MDR very warm, but also the Caribbean and that is what worries me the most, as I and many members of S2K live in these neck of the woods.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
cycloneye wrote:DorkyMcDorkface wrote:mixedDanilo.E wrote:
quite literally the exact opposite - incredible!
Yeah just about...
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3387b2d70141329b01b4656fb87072330a86290cb9b837939dbe05a23468f4df.gif
Not only is the MDR very warm, but also the Caribbean and that is what worries me the most, as I and many members of S2K live in these neck of the woods.
I’m probably in the minority on this but I really don’t care much about how warm the waters are east of 60W.
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Cpv17 wrote:cycloneye wrote:DorkyMcDorkface wrote:Yeah just about...
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3387b2d70141329b01b4656fb87072330a86290cb9b837939dbe05a23468f4df.gif
Not only is the MDR very warm, but also the Caribbean and that is what worries me the most, as I and many members of S2K live in these neck of the woods.
I’m probably in the minority on this but I really don’t care much about how warm the waters are east of 60W.
But it would be important to observe the situation there, since we don't know if we can have something strong there that could cause problems somewhere close to the USA or the Caribbean, like some systems similar to Irma and Isabel...
Sometimes they are little things that may seem insignificant but sooner or later they can end up being big enemies for us if we ignore them, even if it is for a brief moment, for example the aforementioned Irma. If I'm not mistaken, at the beginning of his life that guy seemed to pose no significant risk to Florida, Cuba... But time passed and the worse happened. It was horrible but it could have been even worse.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
Cpv17 wrote:cycloneye wrote:DorkyMcDorkface wrote:Yeah just about...
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3387b2d70141329b01b4656fb87072330a86290cb9b837939dbe05a23468f4df.gif
Not only is the MDR very warm, but also the Caribbean and that is what worries me the most, as I and many members of S2K live in these neck of the woods.
I’m probably in the minority on this but I really don’t care much about how warm the waters are east of 60W.
That's a big part of what controls how active the season is so it's not something to ignore
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Cpv17 wrote:cycloneye wrote:DorkyMcDorkface wrote:Yeah just about...
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3387b2d70141329b01b4656fb87072330a86290cb9b837939dbe05a23468f4df.gif
Not only is the MDR very warm, but also the Caribbean and that is what worries me the most, as I and many members of S2K live in these neck of the woods.
I’m probably in the minority on this but I really don’t care much about how warm the waters are east of 60W.
That area has the highest correlation with seasonal activity though.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
DorkyMcDorkface wrote:Cpv17 wrote:cycloneye wrote:
Not only is the MDR very warm, but also the Caribbean and that is what worries me the most, as I and many members of S2K live in these neck of the woods.
I’m probably in the minority on this but I really don’t care much about how warm the waters are east of 60W.
That area has the highest correlation with seasonal activity though.
To be fair, this early in the year, it does not.
https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/status/1266107330417979392
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
Can I say those famouus words? "Season Cancelled"
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)
NotSparta wrote:Cpv17 wrote:cycloneye wrote:
Not only is the MDR very warm, but also the Caribbean and that is what worries me the most, as I and many members of S2K live in these neck of the woods.
I’m probably in the minority on this but I really don’t care much about how warm the waters are east of 60W.
That's a big part of what controls how active the season is so it's not something to ignore
Yeah but if they form out there (depending on the steering, of course) a lot of those won’t impact land and your average person doesn’t give 2 cents about fish storms. Fish storms are for the true weather nerds to marvel over.
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