East Atl/African Waves,Sat Pics,Models Discussion Thread

[bvigal]

The one I use updates ever 30 minutes which is doable enough for me.
<RICKY>

That sounds good to me. What's the link, please?

[WeatherEmperor]

the only thing about these is that I can't see the cold colored cloud tops like with the weather channel satellite images or like the ones you see on the floaters, but I guess I can't have the best of both worlds

Do you use the NESDIS satellite loops?

<RICKY>

[bvigal]

"...best satellite link for East Atlantic waves which updates frequently??

The only satellite I've seen for the east Atlantic updates every 3 hours. Anyone have a link to one which updates more often?... etc. "

...(from page 10) ...for the 150 posts promoting this sat view I'd think you were trying to sell it

seriously though, it is a great view and I thank you for sharing it with us

I agree, it is a fantastic view, and Luis, thanks so much for finding and posting this!! For years and years, have wanted something off that European satellite more frequently than every 3 hours, but EUMETSAT's "rules" are restrictive and unbending. I've written them directly for clarification: no free availability, other than 3-hrly, to public allowed posted by any subscribers, even NOAA!! It looks like NRL has taken advantage of the one loophole, that being special events - the SAL (though why waves possibly becoming hurricanes can't be considered special events, I don't know!)

Thus, we don't know if this wonderful satellite view will be available all the time, or will discontinue when the dust ceases. For the time being, I am LOVING IT!!

I'll post this (from page 10) again, as it seems this discussion comes up frequently. The only satellite with good views of Africa, meteosat, is owned by a European/African consortium named EUMETSAT. http://www.eumetsat.int/

No matter what website you use to look at closeups of Eastern Atlantic, that's the satellite it comes from and the agency that provides it. Subscribers are not allowed (by subscription contract) to publish for the public anything more frequent than 3 hours. Some examples:
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... winds.html (3 hrs)
http://www.cira.colostate.edu/ramm/rmsd ... PICAL.html (notice "Cira Personnel Only" on METEO 5 & METEO 7)
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html (3 hrs)

[ConvergenceZone]

the only thing about these is that I can't see the cold colored cloud tops like with the weather channel satellite images or like the ones you see on the floaters, but I guess I can't have the best of both worlds

Do you use the NESDIS satellite loops?

<RICKY>

I think I usually use the ssd.noaa.gov satellite loops

[WeatherEmperor]

"...best satellite link for East Atlantic waves which updates frequently??

The only satellite I've seen for the east Atlantic updates every 3 hours. Anyone have a link to one which updates more often?... etc. "

...(from page 10) ...for the 150 posts promoting this sat view I'd think you were trying to sell it

seriously though, it is a great view and I thank you for sharing it with us

I agree, it is a fantastic view, and Luis, thanks so much for finding and posting this!! For years and years, have wanted something off that European satellite more frequently than every 3 hours, but EUMETSAT's "rules" are restrictive and unbending. I've written them directly for clarification: no free availability, other than 3-hrly, to public allowed posted by any subscribers, even NOAA!! It looks like NRL has taken advantage of the one loophole, that being special events - the SAL (though why waves possibly becoming hurricanes can't be considered special events, I don't know!)

Thus, we don't know if this wonderful satellite view will be available all the time, or will discontinue when the dust ceases. For the time being, I am LOVING IT!!

I'll post this (from page 10) again, as it seems this discussion comes up frequently. The only satellite with good views of Africa, meteosat, is owned by a European/African consortium named EUMETSAT. http://www.eumetsat.int/

No matter what website you use to look at closeups of Eastern Atlantic, that's the satellite it comes from and the agency that provides it. Subscribers are not allowed (by subscription contract) to publish for the public anything more frequent than 3 hours. Some examples:
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... winds.html (3 hrs)
http://www.cira.colostate.edu/ramm/rmsd ... PICAL.html (notice "Cira Personnel Only" on METEO 5 & METEO 7)
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html (3 hrs)

LOL. Relax. Here is a link to the Navy NRL site which updates images from the Eastern Atlantic right at the coast of Africa every 15-30 minutes. Check out the site and navigate through it to get what you need.

<RICKY>

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/sat-bin/disp ... C_SCALE=15

[ConvergenceZone]

"...best satellite link for East Atlantic waves which updates frequently??

The only satellite I've seen for the east Atlantic updates every 3 hours. Anyone have a link to one which updates more often?... etc. "

...(from page 10) ...for the 150 posts promoting this sat view I'd think you were trying to sell it

seriously though, it is a great view and I thank you for sharing it with us

I agree, it is a fantastic view, and Luis, thanks so much for finding and posting this!! For years and years, have wanted something off that European satellite more frequently than every 3 hours, but EUMETSAT's "rules" are restrictive and unbending. I've written them directly for clarification: no free availability, other than 3-hrly, to public allowed posted by any subscribers, even NOAA!! It looks like NRL has taken advantage of the one loophole, that being special events - the SAL (though why waves possibly becoming hurricanes can't be considered special events, I don't know!)

Thus, we don't know if this wonderful satellite view will be available all the time, or will discontinue when the dust ceases. For the time being, I am LOVING IT!!

I'll post this (from page 10) again, as it seems this discussion comes up frequently. The only satellite with good views of Africa, meteosat, is owned by a European/African consortium named EUMETSAT. http://www.eumetsat.int/

No matter what website you use to look at closeups of Eastern Atlantic, that's the satellite it comes from and the agency that provides it. Subscribers are not allowed (by subscription contract) to publish for the public anything more frequent than 3 hours. Some examples:
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... winds.html (3 hrs)
http://www.cira.colostate.edu/ramm/rmsd ... PICAL.html (notice "Cira Personnel Only" on METEO 5 & METEO 7)
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html (3 hrs)

thanx BViGal

[bvigal]

Ricky, I don't need to "relax". You need to "read". That NRL site which updates every 15 minutes was the heart of the discussion you refer to.

[Scorpion]

This wave is just sexy.

[vacanechaser]

watching a long loop using that link, thanx for that guys, it looks like the cloud pattern is increasing significantly IMO.. just a few hours over the water and it has really increased i size.. I think we have a go system here.. Get those tracking maps ready...


Jesse V. Bass III
http://www.vastormphoto.com
Hurricane Intercept Research Team

[WeatherEmperor]

Ricky, I don't need to "relax". You need to "read". That NRL site which updates every 15 minutes was the heart of the discussion you refer to.

ok whatever. see if I help you again....

<RICKY>

[truballer#1]

gfs maps of the wave

http://www.wunderground.com/modelmaps/m ... &domain=AF

[WeatherEmperor]

gfs maps of the wave

http://www.wunderground.com/modelmaps/m ... &domain=AF

looks like that GFS turns it out to sea?

<RICKY>

[vacanechaser]

I actually think it's flat out wrong. They're focused on a convectionless swirl at 18N; there's actually a swirl within the convection to the south.

I agree, that swirl is much further south... we need Blake or Rhome in there.. I think blake has the best handle on things most times.. It is very clera in that NRL sat loop that it is further south...

Jesse V. Bass III
http://www.vastormphoto.com
Hurricane Intercept Research Team

[Scorpion]

Alot of models like to turn CV storms out to sea at first.

[WindRunner]

the only thing about these is that I can't see the cold colored cloud tops like with the weather channel satellite images or like the ones you see on the floaters, but I guess I can't have the best of both worlds

Here you go:
IR maps

That page has Color-enhanced and black-and-white IR pics, as well as the water vapor. It updates might update every 15min, but more likely every hour.

[WeatherEmperor]

Alot of models like to turn CV storms out to sea at first.

so you think its likely to stay more south in next run?

<RICKY>

[vacanechaser]

gfs maps of the wave

http://www.wunderground.com/modelmaps/m ... &domain=AF

looks like that GFS turns it out to sea?

<RICKY>

What else is new... It thinks that is what it supposed to do... The GFS turns every thing in that area generally to the north in the same area every year with most systems... Horrible model IMHO..

Jesse V. Bass III
http://www.vastormphoto.com
Hurricane Intercept Research Team

[WeatherEmperor]

gfs maps of the wave

http://www.wunderground.com/modelmaps/m ... &domain=AF

looks like that GFS turns it out to sea?

<RICKY>

What else is new... It thinks that is what it supposed to do... The GFS turns every thing in that area generally to the north in the same area every year with most systems... Horrible model IMHO..

Jesse V. Bass III
http://www.vastormphoto.com
Hurricane Intercept Research Team

True. Luis already posted the UKMET and now we just saw the GFS. Sounds selfish but are there any other model runs to look at with regard to this wave?

<RICKY>

[ConvergenceZone]

Alot of models like to turn CV storms out to sea at first.

I agree, most models turn the storms out to sea when they are this far out. Probably because they don't know any better

[ConvergenceZone]

the only thing about these is that I can't see the cold colored cloud tops like with the weather channel satellite images or like the ones you see on the floaters, but I guess I can't have the best of both worlds

Here you go:
IR maps

That page has Color-enhanced and black-and-white IR pics, as well as the water vapor. It updates might update every 15min, but more likely every hour.

thanx! I'll check them out!