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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
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The European and American models agree on a tropical cyclone forming off Mexico later this week in response to favorable intraseasonal forcing. Its broad size and shear from a ULAC over Baja California may inhibit significant intensification, however.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
11 AM PDT.

Offshore of Southern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure could form several hundred miles off
the coast of southern Mexico during the middle to latter part of
this week. Thereafter, environmental conditions are forecast to be
conducive for gradual development of this system and a tropical
depression could form while it moves generally west-northwestward,
roughly parallel to the southern and southwestern coasts of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...40 percent.
A broad area of low pressure could form several hundred miles off
the coast of southern Mexico during the middle to latter part of
this week. Thereafter, environmental conditions are forecast to be
conducive for gradual development of this system and a tropical
depression could form while it moves generally west-northwestward,
roughly parallel to the southern and southwestern coasts of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...40 percent.

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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
GFS and Euro have another one in medium range, behind the 0/40 one between 216 and 240 hours. The difference is that GFS is closer to the coast and Euro is looking like a longtracker.
GFS

Euro

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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
The AOI looks to be another sprawling mess but with less of a ceiling compared to Adrian. Following system could be our first west tracker of the season.
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Kingarabian wrote:The AOI looks to be another sprawling mess but with less of a ceiling compared to Adrian. Following system could be our first west tracker of the season.
GFS joins Euro on longtracker.

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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
Offshore of Southern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure will likely form several hundred miles
off the coast of southern Mexico in a few days. Thereafter,
environmental conditions are forecast to be conducive for gradual
development of this system and a tropical depression could form late
in the week or over the weekend while it moves generally
west-northwestward, roughly parallel to the southern and
southwestern coasts of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...50 percent
A broad area of low pressure will likely form several hundred miles
off the coast of southern Mexico in a few days. Thereafter,
environmental conditions are forecast to be conducive for gradual
development of this system and a tropical depression could form late
in the week or over the weekend while it moves generally
west-northwestward, roughly parallel to the southern and
southwestern coasts of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...50 percent
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
GFS has been showing a gyre with competing vorticites. However, it is also an outlier.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
12z GFS has two longtrackers.


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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
1100 AM PDT Mon Jul 3 2023
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
Offshore of Southern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure is likely to form several hundred miles
off the coast of southern Mexico in a few days. Thereafter,
environmental conditions are forecast to be conducive for gradual
development of this system and a tropical depression could form late
this week or over the weekend while it moves generally
west-northwestward, roughly parallel to the southern and
southwestern coasts of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...60 percent.
$$
Forecaster Bucci
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
1100 AM PDT Mon Jul 3 2023
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
Offshore of Southern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure is likely to form several hundred miles
off the coast of southern Mexico in a few days. Thereafter,
environmental conditions are forecast to be conducive for gradual
development of this system and a tropical depression could form late
this week or over the weekend while it moves generally
west-northwestward, roughly parallel to the southern and
southwestern coasts of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...60 percent.
$$
Forecaster Bucci
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
Kingarabian, Euro also has the longtracker.


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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
Possible we see the first major hurricane of the season if it can avoid the cooler waters that the -PMM covers. Conditions don't look to good yet.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
Looks like the first longtracker will happen.
GFS


Euro

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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
Past 3 days, Euro and CMC at 00z/12z switch on and off development. GFS has been the most consistent.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
Kingarabian wrote:Past 3 days, Euro and CMC at 00z/12z switch on and off development. GFS has been the most consistent.
Still think it will become the first major of the season?
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
cycloneye wrote:Kingarabian wrote:Past 3 days, Euro and CMC at 00z/12z switch on and off development. GFS has been the most consistent.
Still think it will become the first major of the season?
It should if it follows what the models depict.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

Upper environment for first system looks acceptable but it needs to consolidate by Saturday morning if it wants to become a formidable system. That would give it a little under 3 days to intensify which assuming a climatological rate of intensification projects to be a 75 knot hurricane.

Second system needs to stay south to avoid cool SSTs but flow looks aligned with storm motion. If it does, this could be the strongest storm of the season.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
The longtracker has been added.

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 AM PDT Wed Jul 5 2023
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
1. Offshore of Southwestern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure located several hundred miles south of
southwestern Mexico is producing disorganized shower activity.
Environmental conditions are forecast to be conducive for gradual
development of this system and a tropical depression will likely
form by this weekend while it moves generally west-northwestward,
off the coast of mainland Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...70 percent.
2. Offshore of Southern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure could form a few hundred miles south
of the southern coast of Mexico early next week. Some gradual
development of this system is possible thereafter while it moves
generally westward to west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...20 percent.
Forecaster Bucci
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 AM PDT Wed Jul 5 2023
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
1. Offshore of Southwestern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure located several hundred miles south of
southwestern Mexico is producing disorganized shower activity.
Environmental conditions are forecast to be conducive for gradual
development of this system and a tropical depression will likely
form by this weekend while it moves generally west-northwestward,
off the coast of mainland Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...70 percent.
2. Offshore of Southern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure could form a few hundred miles south
of the southern coast of Mexico early next week. Some gradual
development of this system is possible thereafter while it moves
generally westward to west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...20 percent.
Forecaster Bucci

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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
GFS and Euro differ on the track of 0/20 but are the same on intensity of a strong hurricane.
The Euro route spends more time on warm waters much more than GFS that goes to north of 20N.


The Euro route spends more time on warm waters much more than GFS that goes to north of 20N.


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Re: 2023 EPAC Season
Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 PM PDT Wed Jul 5 2023
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
1. Offshore of Southwestern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure located several hundred miles south of
southwestern Mexico is producing disorganized showers and
thunderstorms. Environmental conditions are forecast to be
conducive for gradual development of this system, and a tropical
depression will likely form by this weekend while it moves
generally west-northwestward, off the coast of mainland Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...80 percent.
2. Offshore of Southern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure could form a few hundred miles south
of the southern coast of Mexico early next week. Some gradual
development of this system is possible thereafter while it moves
generally westward to west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.
Forecaster Kelly/Cangialosi
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 PM PDT Wed Jul 5 2023
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
1. Offshore of Southwestern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure located several hundred miles south of
southwestern Mexico is producing disorganized showers and
thunderstorms. Environmental conditions are forecast to be
conducive for gradual development of this system, and a tropical
depression will likely form by this weekend while it moves
generally west-northwestward, off the coast of mainland Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...80 percent.
2. Offshore of Southern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure could form a few hundred miles south
of the southern coast of Mexico early next week. Some gradual
development of this system is possible thereafter while it moves
generally westward to west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.
Forecaster Kelly/Cangialosi
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season


18z GFS continues to have the best UL environment I’ve seen in this basin this year. However, it is trending towards a larger system, though embedded within an excellent moisture envelope.
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