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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#201 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:52 pm

South of Southern Mexico and Central America:
A broad area of low pressure located a few hundred miles south of
the coasts of Guatemala and El Salvador is producing an area of
disorganized showers and thunderstorms. Some gradual development
of this system is possible during the next several days, and a
tropical depression is likely to form during the middle to latter
part of this week while it moves slowly west-northwestward to
northwestward, roughly parallel to the southern and southwestern
coasts of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...70 percent.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#202 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:02 pm

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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#203 Postby Extratropical94 » Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:45 am

South of Southern Mexico and Central America:
A broad area of low pressure located a few hundred miles south of
the coasts of Guatemala and El Salvador is producing disorganized
shower and thunderstorm activity. Gradual development of this
system is expected during the next several days, and a tropical
depression is likely to form by the latter part of this week while
it moves west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph, roughly parallel to the
southern and southwestern coasts of Mexico. Interests along the
southwestern coast of Mexico should monitor the progress of this
system during the next several days.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...50 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...80 percent.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#204 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:56 pm

I guess it will be invest 92E very soon.

South of Southern Mexico and Central America:
A broad area of low pressure located a few hundred miles south of
the coast of Guatemala is producing disorganized shower and
thunderstorm activity. Gradual development of this system is
expected during the next several days, and a tropical depression is
likely to form by the latter part of this week while it moves
west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph, roughly parallel to the southern
and southwestern coasts of Mexico. Interests along the southwestern
coast of Mexico should monitor the progress of this system during
the next several days.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...60 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...80 percent.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#205 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:53 pm

2023 is #2 on the latest formation date.

Adrian's genesis marks the second-lastest formation of the first
named storm during the eastern Pacific hurricane season, after
Tropical Storm Agatha of 2016 which formed on July 2.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#206 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:11 pm

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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#207 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 29, 2023 4:17 pm

Only 5 days late for the second named storm.

 https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/status/1674522378645405696


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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#208 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:35 pm

We'll see as the time frame comes in but the first 2 weeks of July look pretty slow on the models.

May/June were slow as expected despite the El Nino, but was nice to see two hurricanes to close out the month.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#209 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:16 am

:uarrow: GEFS and now EPS agree on -VP's over Central America through two weeks. How much of this is due to intraseasonal forcing and how much is due to the shifting +ENSO base state is hard to say. I'm expecting a fairly busy July, somewhat unusual for El Nino.

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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#210 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:13 am

Well, after a late start, the season now has 2 hurricanes before july.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#211 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:38 am

On hurricanes, the second one on average forms on July 15 so 2023 is ahead on that.

 https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/status/1674798042942431232


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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#212 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:01 pm

Today's 12z models showed a broad but weak system just off of Mexico in 10 days.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#213 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:04 pm

Yellow Evan wrote::uarrow: GEFS and now EPS agree on -VP's over Central America through two weeks. How much of this is due to intraseasonal forcing and how much is due to the shifting +ENSO base state is hard to say. I'm expecting a fairly busy July, somewhat unusual for El Nino.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857017650042503178/1124199888368963694/gfs-ens_chi200Mean_global_3.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857017650042503178/1124197996154867902/eps_chi200Mean_global_fh216_trend_1.gif


Looking at the GFS and Euro both of them show a prolonged enhanced rainfall/convection mess over CA throughout the next 30 days, which is probably why they're reflecting -VP200 anomalies in this area. So could see development on either side.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#214 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:16 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote::uarrow: GEFS and now EPS agree on -VP's over Central America through two weeks. How much of this is due to intraseasonal forcing and how much is due to the shifting +ENSO base state is hard to say. I'm expecting a fairly busy July, somewhat unusual for El Nino.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857017650042503178/1124199888368963694/gfs-ens_chi200Mean_global_3.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857017650042503178/1124197996154867902/eps_chi200Mean_global_fh216_trend_1.gif


Looking at the GFS and Euro both of them show a prolonged enhanced rainfall/convection mess over CA throughout the next 30 days, which is probably why they're reflecting -VP200 anomalies in this area. So could see development on either side.


You aren't getting development in the Atlantic when -VP is over Central America. In fact, that's the best way I know of to shear the entire MDR west of like 40W until Central America especially this early in the year when climo flow is pretty westerly. It's Eastern Pacific or bust for the forseeable future if that -VP setup verifies unless there are particularly active CCKWs.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#215 Postby dexterlabio » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:55 pm

EPAC starting out with 2 hurricanes this year tells me that this season is not as dead as what some people are expecting. It's puzzling to me IMO that we're expecting this season to underperform in the face of an El Niño, even if we consider the -PDO/-PMM.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#216 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:18 pm

dexterlabio wrote:EPAC starting out with 2 hurricanes this year tells me that this season is not as dead as what some people are expecting. It's puzzling to me IMO that we're expecting this season to underperform in the face of an El Niño, even if we consider the -PDO/-PMM.

I think underperform in terms of 2014-2018 levels.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#217 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:07 am

Models coming on board for another system off of the coast of Mexico in the 9-10 day range.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#218 Postby gatorcane » Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:54 pm

Looking like an El Niño as the EPAC is cranking them out one after the other. 12Z Euro on the new system which could form:

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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#219 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:18 pm

Offshore of Southern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure could form several hundred miles off
the coast of southern Mexico during the latter part of next week.
Some gradual development of this system is possible thereafter as it
moves generally west-northwestward, roughly parallel to the coasts
of southern and southwestern Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...20 percent.
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Re: 2023 EPAC Season

#220 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:52 am

Offshore of Southern Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure could form several hundred miles off
the coast of southern Mexico during the middle to latter part of
next week. Thereafter, environmental conditions are forecast to be
conducive for gradual development of this system while it moves
generally west-northwestward, roughly parallel to the coasts of
southern and southwestern Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.
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