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#21 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:26 pm

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#22 Postby WindRunner » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:27 pm

Hurricanehink wrote:I really hope Zeta makes it until January. That would top it all.


36 hours . . . 10pm Dec 31 EST, but 03Z 1/1/06, assuming this first forecast verifies. Of course, they do seem to have a problem with these kinds of storms . . .
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#23 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:28 pm

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CORRECTION:
RECORDS CONTINUE TO FALL!
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#24 Postby MGC » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:29 pm

This system actually looks great on the sat loop. Have to pinch myself because its nearly the new year. Just goes to show you to expect the unexpected from Mother Nature. Too bad this system could have held off a couple of days until the new year....MGC
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#25 Postby HurricaneQueen » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:32 pm

WOW!!!!! The season that will not end!!!! :roll: How fitting that a storm would form at the very end of 2005.

Does anyone know if this is the latest day of the year for formation?

Happy New Year, Everyone

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#26 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:34 pm

HurricaneQueen wrote:WOW!!!!! The season that will not end!!!! :roll: How fitting that a storm would form at the very end of 2005.

Does anyone know if this is the latest day of the year for formation?

Happy New Year, Everyone

Lynn


Zeta tops Hurricane Alicia, 1954, by a few hours. New record!
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#27 Postby whereverwx » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:34 pm

HurricaneQueen wrote:WOW!!!!! The season that will not end!!!! :roll: How fitting that a storm would form at the very end of 2005.

Does anyone know if this is the latest day of the year for formation?

Happy New Year, Everyone

Lynn


HURAKAN wrote:NEW RECORDS:

ZETA IS THE LATEST A TROPICAL SYSTEM HAS DEVELOPED IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN SINCE RECORDS BEGAN.

"Z" IS THE FIRST LETTER USED OUTSIDE OF THE COMMON A - W EXCLUDING Q,U.
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#28 Postby curtadams » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:39 pm

WindRunner wrote:
Hurricanehink wrote:I really hope Zeta makes it until January. That would top it all.


36 hours . . . 10pm Dec 31 EST, but 03Z 1/1/06, assuming this first forecast verifies. Of course, they do seem to have a problem with these kinds of storms . . .


Not very hard for Zeta to make it to 2006 - that's tomorrow! The forecast is "A WEAKENING TREND IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN TOMORROW." but haven't we heard that before? :D

It seems we are seeing a new kind of storm, or at least a new frequency of a previously rare one. This will be the third cool-water cool-weather "tropical" system in the E Atlantic this year, and they all seem to have been driven by cold stratospheric temperatures, and able to ignore shear much better than the standard systems we're familiar with. What's the vertical profile of shear there? Maybe they can fit themselves into an altitude range where the shear is low.
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#29 Postby WindRunner » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:44 pm

curtadams wrote:
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Hurricanehink wrote:I really hope Zeta makes it until January. That would top it all.


36 hours . . . 10pm Dec 31 EST, but 03Z 1/1/06, assuming this first forecast verifies. Of course, they do seem to have a problem with these kinds of storms . . .


Not very hard for Zeta to make it to 2006 - that's tomorrow! The forecast is "A WEAKENING TREND IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN TOMORROW." but haven't we heard that before? :D



That's exactly what I was thinking :eek: :D
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#30 Postby wxwatcher91 » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:44 pm

sorry but tomorrow is Dec 31 2005

the day AFTER tomorrow is 2006
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#31 Postby JamesFromMaine2 » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:46 pm

isn't 7pm tomorrow night the start of 2006?
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#32 Postby WindRunner » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:47 pm

wxwatcher91 wrote:sorry but tomorrow is Dec 31 2005

the day AFTER tomorrow is 2006


But 7pm EST 12/31 will be the Meteorological New Year - 00Z 1/1 will be the time/date used.
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#33 Postby cjrciadt » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:50 pm

wxwatcher91 wrote:sorry but tomorrow is Dec 31 2005

the day AFTER tomorrow is 2006
Time to put that in the DVD :wink: . Wow just when you thought we cant break anymore records.
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#34 Postby southerngale » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:59 pm

Ringing in the new year with a tropical storm in the Atlantic - it's nuts!

Good riddance, 2005 and all your destruction. So many lives, so many places - forever changed.

Here's to a much quieter season in 2006!
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#35 Postby wxwatcher91 » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:03 pm

WindRunner wrote:
wxwatcher91 wrote:sorry but tomorrow is Dec 31 2005

the day AFTER tomorrow is 2006


But 7pm EST 12/31 will be the Meteorological New Year - 00Z 1/1 will be the time/date used.


true
sorry bout that
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#36 Postby JamesFromMaine2 » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:05 pm

southerngale wrote:Ringing in the new year with a tropical storm in the Atlantic - it's nuts!

Good riddance, 2005 and all your destruction. So many lives, so many places - forever changed.

Here's to a much quieter season in 2006!


For some reason I don't think you will get your Much quieter 2006! Theres really nothing at this time to indicate a quieter 2006!
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#37 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:14 pm

I say where have at least 20 named storms...With a cape verde season producing more storms then 2004.


Zeta looks almost like a hurricane with that eye.
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#38 Postby WxGuy1 » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:17 pm

For the record, we have seen a storm persist across two years (New Years Eve and New Years Day). Unisys Weather calls it Alice2, but it developed on 30 Dec 1954 and persisted until 6 January 1955. The storm became TS Alice2 on Dec 31st, but I would think they would have given it a name starting with I, since the previous named storm in 1954 was Hazel... Alice was actually the first name of 1954, so it had already been used... Anyone have more details on this?

EDIT: Interestingly enough, I see that 1955 started with B, as if Alice was the first name in 1955 (in addition to 1954), and they decided to give it the name from 1955 instead of 1954 (it was past the end of the 1954 season)... Who knows...
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#39 Postby WindRunner » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:21 pm

WxGuy1 wrote:For the record, we have seen a storm persist across two years (New Years Eve and New Years Day). Unisys Weather calls it Alice2, but it developed on 30 Dec 1954 and persisted until 6 January 1955. The storm became TS Alice2 on Dec 31st, but I would think they would have given it a name starting with I, since the previous named storm in 1954 was Hazel... Alice was actually the first name of 1954, so it had already been used... Anyone have more details on this?

EDIT: Interestingly enough, I see that 1955 started with B, as if Alice was the first name in 1955 (in addition to 1954), and they decided to give it the name from 1955 instead of 1954 (it was past the end of the 1954 season)... Who knows...


IIRC, they originally thought that Alice(2) formed in early January, but upon post storm review, they found that the depression formed on the 30th and hence was part of the previous 1954 season, not the 1955 one that they named it in accordance with, leading to two "Alice" storms for 1954, and the need for the "2".
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#40 Postby Canelaw99 » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:23 pm

Just an observation - Zeta means we made it 1/4 of the way through the Greek alphabet - sheesh....crazy, crazy season
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