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#21 Postby Hurrilurker » Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:55 am

What is the UKMET is right? I think Iceland is in big trouble!! Evac Reykjavik NOW! Seriously thought, that is scary, very rarely ever see models that tightly clustered, especially for a turn like that.
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#22 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:56 am

According to that harmonic convergence between 00/06z models
now is the crucial time for SE LA and SW MS. If they have the hook
north sniffed out properly, it won't be long before the climb begins. If not, then either the hook will be sharper and possibly with a more
eastern component or Katrina is coming in farther west than those
plots would indicate. Of note, the CMC 00z as per FSU is the current
right oultier (not plotted on the netwaves plots).

The plot thickens.

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#23 Postby Ixolib » Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:57 am

mobilebay wrote:has anyone noticed that those models are clusterd right on the NHC track. WOW!!! :D


Or vice-versa!!
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#26 Postby mobilebay » Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:06 am

I have a strong feeling that landfall will be around the Gulfport/biloxi area. These models tend to have a west bias at landfall with an approaching trough. Example, Charley, Ivan, Dennis, and many more.
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#27 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:11 am

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#28 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:12 am

mobilebay wrote:I have a strong feeling that landfall will be around the Gulfport/biloxi area. These models tend to have a west bias at landfall with an approaching trough. Example, Charley, Ivan, Dennis, and many more.


I agree.
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#29 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:14 am

Also remember the models trend to like to think the ridge is weaker then it is. So it could go west to.
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#30 Postby mobilebay » Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:19 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Also remember the models trend to like to think the ridge is weaker then it is. So it could go west to.

Matt I'm talking about the interaction between an approaching trough and a Hurricane. The NE turn always seems to happen just before the models indicate. Therefore, I'm saying i think the models maybe off a little (only a few miles) to the west. Meaning I think it's going in few miles East of the concenses.
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#31 Postby cajunwxman » Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:24 am

mobilebay wrote:Matt I'm talking about the interaction between an approaching trough and a Hurricane. The NE turn always seems to happen just before the models indicate. Therefore, I'm saying i think the models maybe off a little (only a few miles) to the west. Meaning I think it's going in few miles East of the concenses.


I was thinking the same thing. :eek:
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#32 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:26 am

It may or may not. Based on WV, there appears to be a shortwave blowing by N AL & N GA north of the eastern side of the high pulling west. The southwesterly flow is on the front side of the high near the TX/NM border. The Plains trof is appearing to be somewhat positively tilted with its current nose near the Missouri/Iowa border. What influence, if any, it has should show up tomorrow. Based on the orientation of its axis, it looks like a lifter rather than a digger, carver or diver and is probably somewhat transient with the main trof to follow in behind Katrina's move across the southeastern US. As always, I could be wrong.

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http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconuswv.html
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#33 Postby stormspotter » Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:35 am

Steve wrote:It may or may not. Based on WV, there appears to be a shortwave blowing by N AL & N GA north of the eastern side of the high pulling west. The southwesterly flow is on the front side of the high near the TX/NM border. The Plains trof is appearing to be somewhat positively tilted with its current nose near the Missouri/Iowa border. What influence, if any, it has should show up tomorrow. Based on the orientation of its axis, it looks like a lifter rather than a digger, carver or diver and is probably somewhat transient with the main trof to follow in behind Katrina's move across the southeastern US. As always, I could be wrong.

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http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconuswv.html


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#34 Postby Ixolib » Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:19 am

Just woke up - what's the concensus on the models now. Has the landfall shifted even more west? Is N.O./MS Coast looking better now? Sorry for all the questions - can barely think yet....
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#35 Postby mtm4319 » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:05 pm

Ixolib wrote:Just woke up - what's the concensus on the models now. Has the landfall shifted even more west? Is N.O./MS Coast looking better now? Sorry for all the questions - can barely think yet....


I went to sleep around 7 and just woke up now... I'm catching up by going backwards from page 3, so I don't know if your question has been answered, but the 12z models look more east:

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#36 Postby Rainband » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:11 pm

Seems that way.
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#37 Postby jkt21787 » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:13 pm

Rainband wrote:Seems that way.

Incoming 12z GFS is back west to NOLA, expect those tropicals to shift back west at 18z since they use the GFS as a background.

Most of the 12z models which have come in are still near NOLA impacts...RGEM...GFS...GGEM...NOGAPS...NAM...
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#38 Postby Amanzi » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:13 pm

southfloridawx2005 wrote:Image

Someone wants a Taco... really bad. LOL.
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#39 Postby baygirl_1 » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:18 pm

To me, it appears a couple of those models have Katrina hitting the boot tip of LA and then being kind of deflected northeastward. I know a direct hit on New Orleans is very possible (and definitely a worse case scenario), but I have to say as an Alabamian I worried about the possibility of that northeast deflection and the degree to which it might occur. No question, the models are tight.
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#40 Postby krysof » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:19 pm

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