18z GFS Just Coming Out Now...

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#21 Postby Huckster » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:03 pm

This looks like the most worthless run yet. Those seem like some very erratic movements, but my eyesight seriously isn't good at seeing those small details; it looks like it was trying to make the storm wobble back and forth, even to the south a couple of tmes. If the storm actually moves like that, it might satisfy all the Florida and Louisiana people I disagree with and everyone in between :P j/k
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#22 Postby TS Zack » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:05 pm

Back West...Now Fl/Al Border.
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#23 Postby goodlife » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:14 pm

ummm....looks like a shift west from the previous run to me...
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#24 Postby ericinmia » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:18 pm

ALhurricane wrote:I wouldn't worry too much about the 18z model runs.

It will be tonight's 00z runs that will hold high interest. Those runs will have the new G-IV upper air data in them.


I agree.. that is the run i have been anticipating since the recon flights were ordered a couple days ago.
That is whay i am laying all my plans on.
-Eric

btw. Follow the NHC for all OFFICIAL tracks. Don't base your judgements on these models.
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#25 Postby x-y-no » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:18 pm

goodlife wrote:ummm....looks like a shift west from the previous run to me...


It's a little east of the old runs for the first 24 hours, then veers west a bit.

Crosses Key West, which it hasn't done before, but stays reasonably far west of the peninsula, landfall in Alabama.

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#26 Postby x-y-no » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:19 pm

ericinmia wrote:
ALhurricane wrote:I wouldn't worry too much about the 18z model runs.

It will be tonight's 00z runs that will hold high interest. Those runs will have the new G-IV upper air data in them.


I agree.. that is the run i have been anticipating since the recon flights were ordered a couple days ago.
That is whay i am laying all my plans on.
-Eric

btw. Follow the NHC for all OFFICIAL tracks. Don't base your judgements on these models.


Yes. Think I'm going to head out and relax for a bit, come back for tonight's "Talkin Tropics" show and the 0Z run. :-)

Jan
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#27 Postby ericinmia » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:28 pm

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Yes. Think I'm going to head out and relax for a bit, come back for tonight's "Talkin Tropics" show and the 0Z run. :-)

Jan


The first frames will be available about 11:30 tonight...
The Recon data from the dropsondes into the ridge, trough, and dennis will be included in it from today. That should make it a very precise model on the next 24 hours.
-Eric
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#28 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:32 pm

One thing that could give this model a little bit more value than previous 06Z/18Z runs is that it upper air stations as far north as Charleston and as west as Lake Charles took an additional upper air observation today (at 18Z). That wasn't the case for the 06Z run this morning (I think only Key West took a 06Z sounding).
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#29 Postby x-y-no » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:34 pm

ericinmia wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
Yes. Think I'm going to head out and relax for a bit, come back for tonight's "Talkin Tropics" show and the 0Z run. :-)

Jan


The first frames will be available about 11:30 tonight...
The Recon data from the dropsondes into the ridge, trough, and dennis will be included in it from today. That should make it a very precise model on the next 24 hours.
-Eric


Yeah, I know ... I'm an old degenerate GFS watcher. :lol: 8-) :lol:

See 'ya later tonight.

Jan
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#30 Postby AL Chili Pepper » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:00 pm

Geesh, here we go again. I was driving home thinking we were clear. Local met on the radio saying well east of Pensacola...maybe even to PCB. Now....the GFS is back at it again.

Timing seems to be the key here. Will the ridge build back in time to steer it back WNW.....or will it not have time.

Props to dsutherland. He's the first met I saw speak of the WNW possibility as it neared the coast. This is not to say that it will actually happen though. Everyone from the Big Bend to NO needs to prepare.
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#31 Postby TampaFl » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:03 pm

That is only one model run, would not put all the eggs in one basket. Lets see if all the other models follow. JMHO. :D

Robert 8-)
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#32 Postby Anonymous » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:13 pm

Why is it when a new model run comes out, THAT MODEL RUN WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT?

The only model runs that really mean anything, is when the storm is within 36hrs. of landfall. Every model run prior to that time, is purely something to speculate about, simply because of the constant changes in the dynamics of the atmosphere.

While it's interesting to see and talk about all of the model runs that come out on a regular basis, none of them should get any one nervous.

THE STORM IS STILL 3-4 DAYS AWAY FROM A LANDFALL!

Have fun getting nervous for nothing. One minute the folks in Texas, Louisiana are nervous, then it's the people in Mississippi, then it's Alabama, Florida...etc. Then it's back to somewhere else. It's ridiculous. Sit back and watch, then get nervous when you NEED to.
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#33 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:17 pm

Big EZ wrote:Why is it when a new model run comes out, THAT MODEL RUN WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT?

The only model runs that really mean anything, is when the storm is within 36hrs. of landfall. Every model run prior to that time, is purely something to speculate about, simply because of the constant changes in the dynamics of the atmosphere.

While it's interesting to see and talk about all of the model runs that come out on a regular basis, none of them should get any one nervous.

THE STORM IS STILL 3-4 DAYS AWAY FROM A LANDFALL!

Have fun getting nervous for nothing. One minute the folks in Texas, Louisiana are nervous, then it's the people in Mississippi, then it's Alabama, Florida...etc. Then it's back to somewhere else. It's ridiculous. Sit back and watch, then get nervous when you NEED to.


its what have you done for me lately. newest model run takes the most recent data and tghus is generally the most important unless there is corrupt data or bad initialization.
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#34 Postby Mac » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:18 pm

I'm not too nervous in Nashville. But we could use the rain. :wink:
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#35 Postby ericinmia » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:22 pm

I don't care to argue with you big ez BUT, the 00z run of the gfs is the most important run it does. And that run tonight will have all the snyoptic data inputed into it. And this is not 3-4 days out for some places.

Keep your rude comments to yourself, simply don't post.
-Eric
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#36 Postby Anonymous » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:26 pm

jlauderdale...you are stating the obvoius, which is my point.

WHY IS A POST WITH THE HEADER AS ON THIS ONE, SO NECESSARY?

Simply say; "The next model runs are about to be complete". "Stay tuned".

8-)
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#37 Postby ericinmia » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:29 pm

Big EZ wrote:jlauderdale...you are stating the obvoius, which is my point.

WHY IS A POST WITH THE HEADER AS ON THIS ONE, SO NECESSARY?

Simply say; "The next model runs are about to be complete". "Stay tuned".

8-)


Symantics... now your just arguing for arguments sake...
I am done here...
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#38 Postby Agua » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:29 pm

Well, hell. That one ends up back west where Ivan went in.
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#39 Postby CajunMama » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:30 pm

ok people.....step back away from the computer...take a deep breath.....and let's calm down. 8-)
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#40 Postby jkt21787 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:32 pm

Although this shows a landfall thats more in line of favoring my view (sorry, I couldn't resist), I'm not even biting yet. Its 18z (its infamous for being bad) and again its only one run.

00z models will be critical tonight. NAM is in the game now because its in the domain of good forecasting. My thinking could change drastically tonight...
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