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#181 Postby chrisjslucia » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:00 pm

Well now we have both waves showing at NHC. As it has been chucking it down all day here in St Lucia, not sure why it took until this afternoon to flag the westerly one. As for the threat from the east, it seems from the (limited number of) track models and divergence of opinion that we'll have to wait for a better idea of where it is headed - currently models vary as far as showing it brushing Trinidad and heading north west well before the Leewards. Anyway, the force of the rain and wind levels are far lower than when what became Alex passed by.
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#182 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:52 pm

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ABNT20 KNHC 292351
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TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT THU JUL 29 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SHOWERS AND A FEW THUNDERSTORMS ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE ARE
MOVING ACROSS THE WINDWARD ISLANDS. THERE ARE NO SIGNS OF
ORGANIZATION AT THIS TIME...AND ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM
IS EXPECTED TO BE SLOW TO OCCUR AS IT MOVES GENERALLY WESTWARD AT
10 TO 15 MPH. LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS AND STRONG GUSTY WINDS COULD
AFFECT PORTIONS OF THE LESSER ANTILLES OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

AN AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER IS LOCATED OVER THE EASTERN ATLANTIC
OCEAN ABOUT 650 MILES SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS. THIS
SYSTEM SHOWS SOME SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION...AND SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF
THIS DISTURBANCE IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT
MOVES SLOWLY TOWARD THE WEST OR WEST-NORTHWEST. THERE IS A LOW
CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

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Re: Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#183 Postby Florida1118 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:38 am

DISORGANIZED CLOUDINESS AND A FEW THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE
SOUTHEASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A WESTWARD MOVING
TROPICAL WAVE. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

real descriptive in this TWO. :D
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Re: Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#184 Postby Florida1118 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:53 am

A TROPICAL WAVE OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA IS PRODUCING
DISORGANIZED SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY. THERE IS A LOW
CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT AROUND 15 TO 20
MPH.
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#185 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:00 am

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Needs to be watched as it moves westward
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#186 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:33 am

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The central and western Caribbean look quite favorable
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#187 Postby rockyman » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:53 am

Should we change the title to "Wave in Eastern Caribbean"? I think the center of focus has shifted to the west of the Islands.

By the way, CIMSS is still following this as one of their "test invests":

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/pred ... 000&loop=0

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Re: Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#188 Postby TheBurn » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:09 am

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Re: Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#189 Postby Sanibel » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:40 am

Time for a title change. The wave is now into the Caribbean. It actually has better organization than 90L. However the upper level ahead is more hostile. I'd watch this as it approaches the west Caribbean.
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#190 Postby rockyman » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:52 am

There's a pretty substantial trough exiting the east coast now...causing a break in the ridge around the Bahamas...if this system strengthens in the short term, it could begin to feel this weakness and turn more WNW...but if it stays weak, it'll miss this weakness and continue into Central America.

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Re: Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#191 Postby rockyman » Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:09 am

Looking at the CIMSS surface data, there could be a little circulation trying to develop here...of course, land effects could also account for the winds:

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#192 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:47 am

Decent convection aloft, conditions look marginal for development but I wouldn't be surprised if it does get invested in the W.Caribbean.
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Re: Wave in Eastern Caribbean

#193 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:40 pm

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#194 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:57 pm

The UKMO develops the wave behind it from the looks of things...

But all the models do seem to develop a weak system from the looks of things, probably another race against time setting up with this one with another possible borderline system.
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#195 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:02 pm

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Pressure decreasing and winds have peaked at 27.6 knots.

Link - http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42059
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#196 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:10 pm

Could well see a sneak development with this one in the W.Caribbean its got about 72hrs to try and do something, possible invest tomorrow IMO.
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#197 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:12 pm

KWT wrote:Could well see a sneak development with this one in the W.Caribbean its got about 72hrs to try and do something, possible invest tomorrow IMO.


I'm more interested about this system than 90L. Of course, on the short term. Long term is different.

This system is moving towards an area climatologically speaking, more favorable for development and the shear maps look great for the central and western Caribbean.
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#198 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:13 pm

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#199 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:38 pm

Some very high shear aloft for this wave, that ULH is going to have to stay close to wher eit is if this one is going to have a chance.
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#200 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:30 pm

Vorticity looks very nice with this. I am confident it will become a TC when it makes it to the W. Caribbean. It's anyones guess from there on out.
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