Low Pressure east of Windward Islands (Is Invest 94L)

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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#161 Postby Stormybajan » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:14 pm

aspen wrote:Funny how the disturbance that has yet to be tagged as an invest seems to be way closer to developing than either of the currently tagged invests lol

Lol it is funny, the wave is going to give nhc no choice but to increase chances again and give it 94L at 6z
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#162 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:54 pm

gfs coming in a little weaker
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#163 Postby Cat5James » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:56 pm

00Z ICON brings it up the spine of FL next Sunday
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#164 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:57 pm

going to be a couple cycles before models really get the recent data ingested.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#165 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:01 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:going to be a couple cycles before models really get the recent data ingested.

Models havent done particularly well on genesis the last few years anyway.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#166 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:02 pm

Would be nice to get some HMON/HWRF runs for this. Hopefully it's tagged at 6z
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#167 Postby Jr0d » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:08 pm

The ICON is once again taking it over the Greater Antilles and South Florida/the Keys as a storm. Obviously not a trusted model and has it flip flops but it has consistently taken this path for days now...though sometimes tough to tell if it is this wave or 93L.

I agree that unless it goes poof overnight(highly unlikely)this will officially be an invest by 8am/12Z.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#168 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:09 pm

Gfs headed for DR , what path it eventually takes will have a big impact on its potential strength.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#169 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:10 pm

This sort of gives me vibes of early stage Laura where we were all biting our nails trying to find out if Hispaniola would shred the system to nothingness or it it would dodge the island enough to remain over water and strengthen
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#170 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:17 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:This sort of gives me vibes of early stage Laura where we were all biting our nails trying to find out if Hispaniola would shred the system to nothingness or it it would dodge the island enough to remain over water and strengthen


What I specifically remember about Laura last year was that she was supposed to pass north of Hispaniola, but instead passed on its southern side. I will not be surprised if models are way off about this system either.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#171 Postby Cat5James » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:19 pm

captainbarbossa19 wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:This sort of gives me vibes of early stage Laura where we were all biting our nails trying to find out if Hispaniola would shred the system to nothingness or it it would dodge the island enough to remain over water and strengthen


What I specifically remember about Laura last year was that she was supposed to pass north of Hispaniola, but instead passed on its southern side. I will not be surprised if models are way off about this system either.

Models were way off with Dorian within 24 hours showing the storm pass west of PR when it wound up passing East... would not be surprised to see such errors once again.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#172 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:39 pm

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Not as strong as 93L yet, but not far behind.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#173 Postby sma10 » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:41 pm

Ukmet also now on for development for the first time. Takes a similar ICON track to around the FL straits
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#174 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:44 pm

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I know shear maps are transient, but the Florida Strait and Gulf now are very favorable shear-wise. Assuming a moist environment, slow speed, etc. otherwise, we definitely do not want something in that region.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#175 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:53 pm

The 0zGFS shows this hitting The NC/VA border as a hurricane in 11 days, I think that this will end up farther west in the end though due to model bias in the past of recurving too soon on the models
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#176 Postby AtlanticWind » Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:01 am

sma10 wrote:Ukmet also now on for development for the first time. Takes a similar ICON track to around the FL straits

What strength?
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#177 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:05 am

AtlanticWind wrote:
sma10 wrote:Ukmet also now on for development for the first time. Takes a similar ICON track to around the FL straits

What strength?

Very weak but I would put very little stock in individual model intensity forecasts. It's best to just track these in live times and see whether they become a TS or not.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#178 Postby Stormybajan » Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:10 am

Knowing how cautious the NHC are, I think they only raise development chances of this western wave to 20-30 from 10-20 at 8 and 93L most likely will be increased to 30-40 im not on the development boat for either disturbance yet but they are doing better than I expected
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#179 Postby sma10 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:25 am

Kingarabian wrote:
AtlanticWind wrote:
sma10 wrote:Ukmet also now on for development for the first time. Takes a similar ICON track to around the FL straits

What strength?

Very weak but I would put very little stock in individual model intensity forecasts. It's best to just track these in live times and see whether they become a TS or not.


Agreed. Especially prior to genesis. Remember last year - according to global models virtually no TC's would have developed, let alone 30.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#180 Postby AtlanticWind » Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:35 am

20/30 on the 2am update
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