2016 EPAC Season
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
Looks like the Euro is weakening.
I'm going to bet on another no-show this time around.
Is it possible that "Agatha" might not make an appearance until July?
I'm going to bet on another no-show this time around.
Is it possible that "Agatha" might not make an appearance until July?
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season


NOGAPS and FIM8 seem to be caving towards development on the 12z runs, albeit weak.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
What a contrast of seasons on this date June 13 as 2015 already had two cat 4 hurricanes (Andres and Blanca) and one cat 1 Carlos.So far 2016 has 0.
Hurricane Andres.

Hurricane Blanca.

Hurricane Carlos.

Hurricane Andres.

Hurricane Blanca.

Hurricane Carlos.

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
Long-term, CFS seems to agree on a more moist EPAC next month with shear levels subsiding considerably by September.






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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
Surface feature looks very broad while higher vorticity seems to be heading towards a track very close to the coast, which is why the Euro is now trending weaker. UL don't look the best, IMO.
Besides this area this basin as a whole has MSLPs higher than average, and instability has been running below average.
Besides this area this basin as a whole has MSLPs higher than average, and instability has been running below average.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

At least the GFS shows an actual low in okay environmental conditions. if the center gets going and the system consolidates under the anticyclone and closer to the coast, as suggested by the ECMWF, wind shear is more likely to be low, but if this develops further west, I'd favor the GFS/CMC solution.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 PM PDT MON JUN 13 2016
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
An area of low pressure is expected to develop south of the coast of
southern Mexico during the next day or two. Environmental conditions
appear to be conducive for gradual development of this system, and a
tropical depression could form later this week while the disturbance
moves west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent
$$
Forecaster Kimberlain
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 PM PDT MON JUN 13 2016
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
An area of low pressure is expected to develop south of the coast of
southern Mexico during the next day or two. Environmental conditions
appear to be conducive for gradual development of this system, and a
tropical depression could form later this week while the disturbance
moves west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent
$$
Forecaster Kimberlain
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
We need an invest to test the storm map. Come on EPAC!
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
00z Euro shows nothing now. 00z GFS still shows nothing. Development seems highly unlikely now.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
Still 20/50. Expect it to come down @ 5am TWO unless 06z GFS shows something.
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1100 PM PDT MON JUN 13 2016
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
1. A weak area of low pressure is expected to develop south of the
coast of southern Mexico during the next couple of days.
Environmental conditions appear to be conducive for some
development of this system, and a tropical depression could form
later this week while the disturbance moves west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent
Forecaster Kimberlain
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 AM PDT TUE JUN 14 2016
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
A weak area of low pressure is expected to develop southwest of the
coast of southern Mexico during the next day or two.
Environmental conditions appear to be conducive for some
development of this system, and a tropical depression could form
later this week while the disturbance moves west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent
Forecaster Pasch
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 AM PDT TUE JUN 14 2016
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
A weak area of low pressure is expected to develop southwest of the
coast of southern Mexico during the next day or two.
Environmental conditions appear to be conducive for some
development of this system, and a tropical depression could form
later this week while the disturbance moves west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent
Forecaster Pasch
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
Looks like a whole mess this morning, surface shows just a weak elongated broad area of low pressure, Euro is trending weaker and weaker on each run. IMO, chances of a named TS coming out of this is lowering.
Late starting seasons over the EPAC end up having a below average ACE for the season, per Dr Phil K.
https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/statu ... 3894510592
Late starting seasons over the EPAC end up having a below average ACE for the season, per Dr Phil K.
https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/statu ... 3894510592
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
If the center forms where the globals are showing it, forget anything beyond a very messy TD/weak TS. If the center forms further west, however, the system could be stronger.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
cycloneye wrote:JB talks about GFS.
@BigJoeBastardi · 1m1 minute ago
Hard to believe how bad the GFS has been against the European on the hemispheric 5 day. Embarrassing
Maybe JB wants to take this tweet back!

Looks like a BIG bust for the Euro in progress with this EPAC system.
The CMC while largely not useful is actually helpful in this situation since if it is lackluster on development (as it has been with this system) and it develops nearly ANYTHING, then development may not happen.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1100 AM PDT TUE JUN 14 2016
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
A broad area of low pressure is located several hundred miles
south-southeast of Manzanillo, Mexico. Environmental conditions
appear to be conducive for some development of this system, and a
tropical depression could form later this week while the disturbance
moves west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent
$$
Forecaster Pasch
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1100 AM PDT TUE JUN 14 2016
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
A broad area of low pressure is located several hundred miles
south-southeast of Manzanillo, Mexico. Environmental conditions
appear to be conducive for some development of this system, and a
tropical depression could form later this week while the disturbance
moves west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent
$$
Forecaster Pasch
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season
gatorcane wrote:
The CMC while largely not useful is actually helpful in this situation since if it is lackluster on development (as it has been with this system) and it develops nearly ANYTHING, then development may not happen.
CMC isn't reliable for development period. It tends to develop storms that don't form, but I've seen it miss lots of systems or severely underude their intensity.
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gatorcane wrote:cycloneye wrote:JB talks about GFS.
@BigJoeBastardi · 1m1 minute ago
Hard to believe how bad the GFS has been against the European on the hemispheric 5 day. Embarrassing
Maybe JB wants to take this tweet back!![]()
Looks like a BIG bust for the Euro in progress with this EPAC system.
The CMC while largely not useful is actually helpful in this situation since if it is lackluster on development (as it has been with this system) and it develops nearly ANYTHING, then development may not happen.
I'm sure he was referring to the big picture, in which the GFS has had a disasterous June.


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