Pascal & Bernoulli principles combined weaken hurricanes

[cyclonekiller]

1056 tunnels I come up with to span the 40 mile width of gulfstream. Each tunnel is 200 feet wide.

Oh...now they are 200' wide...not 50x200'

Oh...BTW...still not wide enough. Remember you need a 250 wide CYLINDER tunnel to get 330 million cu feet per hour.

Which means you still don't know how to do math. At 200', it has to move at about 6 mph. How are you going to boost it the extra 1 mph?

Again who says they have to be cylinders?

Anybody who works in engineering.

They can be engineered to be rectangular also.

[Air Force Met]

I was going to try to stay out of this, but #4 is one of the craziest things I have ever heard. Where did the number 8 come from? And you still don't understand #2 . . .

I'd like to see THAT 8 day forecast...wouldn't you?

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

I was going to try to stay out of this, but #4 is one of the craziest things I have ever heard. Where did the number 8 come from? And you still don't understand #2 . . .

Each day the gulf stream migrates to the North 120 miles per day if you cool that water to 75 degrees for 8 days you have cooled 960 miles of gulfstream thus protecting the East coast.

Is this a joke??? That would kill the gulf stream. That would freeze the northeastern North America/Europe. In secondly how in the heck are you going to get Washington to support even 10 billion with no facts? In the price is going to be trillions I can tell you that much.

This has as much chance of happening as me getting a billion dollars in powerball.

[Air Force Met]

1056 tunnels I come up with to span the 40 mile width of gulfstream. Each tunnel is 200 feet wide.

Oh...now they are 200' wide...not 50x200'

Oh...BTW...still not wide enough. Remember you need a 250 wide CYLINDER tunnel to get 330 million cu feet per hour.

Which means you still don't know how to do math. At 200', it has to move at about 6 mph. How are you going to boost it the extra 1 mph?

Again who says they have to be cylinders?

Anybody who works in engineering.

They can be engineered to be rectangular also.

OK...now you just increased your cost...and killed the Bernoulli principle...because it works best in laminar flow.

OK...that was easy. Next.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

Interesting Debate

[WindRunner]

I was going to try to stay out of this, but #4 is one of the craziest things I have ever heard. Where did the number 8 come from? And you still don't understand #2 . . .

Each day the gulf stream migrates to the North 120 miles per day if you cool that water to 75 degrees for 8 days you have cooled 960 miles of gulfstream thus protecting the East coast.

75? What? Where did that come from? Do you know how that would effect the entire East Coast's tourism? And does 75F water really protect the East Coast? (it doesn't) And if this is your crazy answer for number 4, then we wouldn't have that much of an issue with #2, so if you weren't making this up as you went along, then I'm pretty sure you would have put that for #2 and gotten rid of it. Instead, you just further prove your lack of knowledge and forethought in this discussion.

[cyclonekiller]

1056 tunnels I come up with to span the 40 mile width of gulfstream. Each tunnel is 200 feet wide.

Oh...now they are 200' wide...not 50x200'

Oh...BTW...still not wide enough. Remember you need a 250 wide CYLINDER tunnel to get 330 million cu feet per hour.

Which means you still don't know how to do math. At 200', it has to move at about 6 mph. How are you going to boost it the extra 1 mph?

Again who says they have to be cylinders?

Negative you are wrong.

Anybody who works in engineering.

They can be engineered to be rectangular also.

OK...now you just increased your cost...and killed the Bernoulli principle...because it works best in laminar flow.

OK...that was easy. Next.

[WindRunner]

How is he wrong? Bernoulli's works best with the cylinders . . . simple as that. And other shapes have so many other issues as well . . .

[Air Force Met]

Each day the gulf stream migrates to the North 120 miles per day if you cool that water to 75 degrees for 8 days you have cooled 960 miles of gulfstream thus protecting the East coast.

Oh really? And it just stays 75F...no mixing? No solar insolation?

Oh...and this is just ANOTHER example of your very BAD math and/or research...the Gulf Stream has PEAK velocities of 4 knots...which means it would move a maximum of 120 miles per day IF that stayed constant...but it doesn't. It slows down. ONce it's past Florida it moves about 40 miles per day.

Which falls well short of 960 miles for 8 days...which means you will have to keep your little pump on all the time in order for it to work...which will then wreck the climate of the world.

Case closed.

[Air Force Met]

1056 tunnels I come up with to span the 40 mile width of gulfstream. Each tunnel is 200 feet wide.

Oh...now they are 200' wide...not 50x200'

Oh...BTW...still not wide enough. Remember you need a 250 wide CYLINDER tunnel to get 330 million cu feet per hour.

Which means you still don't know how to do math. At 200', it has to move at about 6 mph. How are you going to boost it the extra 1 mph?

Again who says they have to be cylinders?

Negative you are wrong.

Anybody who works in engineering.

They can be engineered to be rectangular also.

OK...now you just increased your cost...and killed the Bernoulli principle...because it works best in laminar flow.

OK...that was easy. Next.

That was easy. Next.

[James]

[cyclonekiller]

Each day the gulf stream migrates to the North 120 miles per day if you cool that water to 75 degrees for 8 days you have cooled 960 miles of gulfstream thus protecting the East coast.

Oh really? And it just stays 75F...no mixing? No solar insolation?

Oh...and this is just ANOTHER example of your very BAD math and/or research...the Gulf Stream has PEAK velocities of 4 knots...which means it would move a maximum of 120 miles per day IF that stayed constant...but it doesn't. It slows down. ONce it's past Florida it moves about 40 miles per day.

Which falls well short of 960 miles for 8 days...which means you will have to keep your little pump on all the time in order for it to work...which will then wreck the climate of the world.

Case closed.

So leave it on for 20 days.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

So you went to build 1056 tunnels at 400 miles long/200 feet wide? Under water? That will cost trillions not just trillions but as much as AFM says just for the tunnel. Then you have to find the workers to do the work. Then you have to build it strong. This would be the biggest under taking in the history of man kind.

It would break the back of the United states at least 5 times. In short of a dictaters using the army to beat the people into doing the work. In which is under water. In this would take 20 or more years using millions of workers.

In you have to go in front of the senate of the United states with facts. To even get started. In they will laugh at the facts you have put forward. 10 billion even in your world would get laughed at.

Its time to give up the games

[Air Force Met]

So leave it on for 20 days.

So...you have a 20 day forecast for a hurricane now?

So...see...you even admit by this answer that you do not know how to do research. So why should anyone take anything you say seriously?

Want to explain why there is a drought in Europe given the global warming producing floods?

[P.K.]

Wrong. There is no scienfic data to suggest we are deluging them with rain. Matter of fact..they were just hit with a very bad drought several years ago and it continues in many areas. Explain that MR Climo? Please...I want to know how we have cause flooding rains in Europe that at the same time has caused them doughts. Do you have long-term memory loss?

I've plotted the EWP from 1914 to 2004 and can't see any obvious trends that would be down to global warming.

[Air Force Met]

I've plotted the EWP from 1914 to 2004 and can't see any obvious trends that would be down to global warming.

PK...HOW DARE you bring actual data into this discussion...don't you know you're a victim of his car? NOw...if you can't just make up some stuff....go to bed!

[cyclonekiller]

So leave it on for 20 days.

So...you have a 20 day forecast for a hurricane now?

So...see...you even admit by this answer that you do not know how to do research. So why should anyone take anything you say seriously?

Want to explain why there is a drought in Europe given the global warming producing floods?

You don't either accoring to this map it is in excess of 60 miles per day even past Georgia.

http://envisat.esa.int/live/lg_03.gif

[Air Force Met]

So leave it on for 20 days.

So...you have a 20 day forecast for a hurricane now?

So...see...you even admit by this answer that you do not know how to do research. So why should anyone take anything you say seriously?

Want to explain why there is a drought in Europe given the global warming producing floods?

You don't either accoring to this map it is in excess of 60 miles per day even past Georgia.

http://envisat.esa.int/live/lg_03.gif

But it's not constant. That's the speed right now and that's Georgia...oooohh...which is a whole 60 miles north of Florida. Opps. My bad...I was off by 20 miles per day. It's crawling off the coast of SC. So it averages out. You do understand avererages right? Bottom line? It isn't moving 900+ miles in 8 days. Bottom line? There are no 8 DAY FORECAST FOR HURRICANES. AND you have still yet to explain how that will work. Car to now?

Still trying to explain the drought in Europe? Maybe you would like to do that now to...in light of PK's data. Oh I forgot...you don't like data.

[HurryKane]

A cylinder would be better equipped to deal with the immense pressures of water in question.

Perhaps, on one side.

Wow, all seven years of my engineering education just came shooting out my nose along with some Diet Coke. That has to be one of the funniest things I've ever read.

You can imagine what the 19 years of meteorological education and experience is doing to me...right?


I know you're not supposed to feed the trolls...but when you are bored...it's sometimes kinda fun.

Oh, yes, I certainly can imagine. But right now I'm going back and forth between maniacal laughter and tears at what can only be a well-written AI program

[Air Force Met]

Oh, yes, I certainly can imagine. But right now I'm going back and forth between maniacal laughter and tears at what can only be a well-written AI program

You really want a laugh? Here's the same guy...

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/u ... 2;t=000313

He's a hoot. Nice to now that in a world of constant changes...
well...he's constant.