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Who was the best Director of the NHC?

Poll ended at Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:18 pm

Gordon Dunn (1965-1967)
1
1%
Dr. Robert Simpson (1967-1973)
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No votes
Dr. Neil Frank (1973-1987)
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49%
Dr. Robert (Bob) Sheets (1987-1995)
30
30%
Dr. Bob Burpee (1996-1997)
2
2%
Jerry Jarrell (1998-2000)
2
2%
Max Mayfield (2000-Present)
17
17%
 
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#21 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:46 pm

I think Avila is gong to be the next director. Derek said he is the head forecaster.
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#22 Postby Huckster » Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:09 pm

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Here is a picture of the past and current directors of the National Hurricane Center at the recent Hurricane Conference in New Orleans, LA. From left, Brian Jarvinen, Max Mayfield (Director, 2000-present), Jerry Jarrell (Director, 1998-2000), Billy Wagner, Robert Burpee (Director, 1996-1997), Robert Sheets (Director, 1987-1995), Neil Frank (Director, 1973-1987), Robert Simpson (Director, 1967-1973), and Herbert Saffir. The only Director not pictured is Gordon Dunn (Director, 1965-1967, MIC of WBO Miami 1954-1965), who is deceased.


http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mia/newpage/history.html
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#23 Postby george_r_1961 » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:04 am

Well I think all of them did a fine job but Bob Sheets was my favorite. His style handling the media was superb as was his explanations of storm forecasts. Jerry Jarrell is remembered by me for his sense of humor; during one pesky storm ( cant remember the name) he said it was making him lose all his hair :D Of course Max Mayfield, and his staff, have proven themselves several times over the years,
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#24 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:56 am

1# Dr. Neil Frank (1973-1987)
2# Dr. Robert (Bob) Sheets (1987-1995)...He had Andrew on his hands.
3# Dr. Robert Simpson (1967-1973) (He helped make the hurricane scale)
4# Jerry Jarrell (1998-2000)....Hurricane Mitch :roll:
5# Gordon Dunn (1965-1967) The first...
6# Max Mayfield (2000-Present)...Charley,Alex,Ivan,Hati tropical system???

No I'm not going to put Max Mayfield ahead of Neil franks or Robert Simspons that made the scale.
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#25 Postby BayouVenteux » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:08 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:2# Dr. Robert (Bob) Sheets (1987-1995)...He had Andrew on his hands.


Not to mention having both Gilbert and the U.S.-landfalling Hugo to deal with during his time at the helm.
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#26 Postby WindRunner » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:20 am

Bob Sheets was my favorite!
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#27 Postby Frank2 » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:37 am

That's a great photo - thanks, you Huckster!

Frank

P.S. I worked for 5 of 'em - all good eggs (gee, Brian sure has aged - so have I!).

P.P.S. By the way, Brian Jarvinen, Billy Wagner, and Herbert Saffir were not NHC Directors. Brian was very instrumental in creating the SLOSH strom-surge model still used today, Billy Wagner has been and still is the Monroe County (Florida Keys) Senior Emergency Management Director, and of course Herbert Saffir is co-author of the Saffir/Simpson hurricane intensity scale.
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#28 Postby x-y-no » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:10 am

Neil Frank will always be the personification of the NHC in my mind.
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#29 Postby Petmom » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:25 am

I voted for Max, but then again, he is the only one I know and remember.

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#30 Postby jasons2k » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:50 am

Frank2 wrote:That's a great photo - thanks, you Huckster!

Frank

P.S. I worked for 5 of 'em - all good eggs (gee, Brian sure has aged - so have I!).

P.P.S. By the way, Brian Jarvinen, Billy Wagner, and Herbert Saffir were not NHC Directors. Brian was very instrumental in creating the SLOSH strom-surge model still used today, Billy Wagner has been and still is the Monroe County (Florida Keys) Senior Emergency Management Director, and of course Herbert Saffir is co-author of the Saffir/Simpson hurricane intensity scale.


Frank, thanks for clarifying that for the others. When I did my research I found that photo but didn't post it fearing the caption would confuse people. But a great photo indeed, definately some legends there.
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#31 Postby Frank2 » Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:16 pm

You're welcome - by the way, here are some old photographs of the NHC when it was still housed at the University of Miami computer building (and I was attending middle school just two miles west of them) - click on http://ibistro.dos.state.fl.us/uhtbin/c ... er#skipnav
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#32 Postby jasons2k » Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:25 pm

One thing I noticed, if you go back and look at the NHC archives of storm reports, the official post-storm reports didn't begin until 1973, the year Dr. Frank took over. (the reports before that are from the famous Simpson book and other sources) IMO that's pretty indicative that he mandated some new procedures and really turned it into much of what the NHC is today.

I also found a lot of other firsts during Dr. Frank's tenure, a lot of which we take for granted, such as the issuance of strike probabilites, which were first issued in 1983 with Alicia.

It seems like every year they tried to make it that much better, much like today (I have to give Max Mayfield a lot of credit too, I think the NHC is under his direction is really making strides).
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#33 Postby Frank2 » Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:52 am

Yes, some of the old material at the NHC (especially prior to the formation of NOAA in 1970) were from personal archives, though some were also kept per U.S. Weather Bureau record-keeping policies.

In the very old days of the Miami U.S. Weather Bureau office, there were several individuals who kept detailed pen and ink weather records, and it made for interesting reading (especially during the off-season).

Click on http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/newpage/history.html to view the history of the Miami NWSFO/NHC.

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#34 Postby Downdraft » Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:34 pm

It's just to bad that they needed a scape goat for Andrew and Bob Sheets had to pay the price. I'm sure that one storm haunts him to this day even though looking back I think he did a superb job.
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#35 Postby Frank2 » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:21 am

Huh?

Bob Sheets retired because he met retirement criteria, and because his family was hoping that he'd take the opportunity to slow down a bit (the NHC Director's position requires at least 200 travel days per year). It had nothing to do with the outcome of Hurricane Andrew, with the exception that his family felt that it was a good idea that he'd retire before another similar situation presented itself. In fact, a year or so later he commented on camera that indeed it was their idea - he probably wouldn't have retired at that time, had the decision been left to him alone.

As far as I know, the NHC staff were given credit for remaining at their duty stations during the height of the hurricane, and delivering an accurate forecast beforehand, often ignoring their own needs to prepare for it, and afterwards, remaining on duty, despite the fact that the building the NHC was housed in was damaged (including a loss of the NWS radar).

In addition, a number of cars belonging to NHC employees were overturned or damaged in the downstairs parking lot, and, most of all, remaining on duty, even though many of the staff had lost their own homes, with some being unable to locate family members.

Frank
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