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#21 Postby FloridaDiver » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:32 pm

I’m confused about this thread, why is this person upset? Ok, so Dennis didn’t live up to the projected threat, it didn’t maintain CAT4 strength, winds slowed down substantially in the affected area.. SO WHAT? Many people in the Pensacola area that are still getting their life together after last years mess are quite thankful Dennis didn’t “kick butt” and ended up being a wimpy storm. Yes I agree that perhaps our monitoring system for tropical weather can use a few upgrades, but the poor folks at the NHC will always be in a position of unbalance. Over predict the storms intensity; people go MAD over the NHC because they had to spend time (and money) protecting property. Under predict a storms intensity and people are complacent, life’s are lost, property is damaged and again people go MAD and point blame at the NHC. Frankly, given this situation, the NHC does a good job in my opinion, being conservative (over protection) is never a bad thing. This thread wouldn’t even exist if Dennis maintained intensity…your expecting the NHC to predict with certain accuracy, what is generally “unpredictable”…
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#22 Postby MGC » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:50 pm

Its the media's fault. They spun Dennis into the next coming of Ivan. They said it was going to be worst than Ivan. Just so happens Dennis shows up in his walker and now everyone is angry that the Pensacola area isn't a waste land. I too was surprised by how small Dennis' circulation was. I too was suckered into thinking "another Ivan" by all the media hype. We've had this argument before about the SS scale. Sure it might over rate the small sized circulation storms. I just don't know what could be a better measurement stick. I'd have rather been in Charley last year than Ivan. Why, because Charley had a much small wind field. On paper Charley was the stronger storm. Yet Ivan's wind field was several time larger and caused more wide spread damage across its diameter. Dennis will go down as a Cat 3 in the record book.......MGC
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#23 Postby wx247 » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:53 pm

I don't know who is upset. I'm sure not, and I hope no one on here is either.
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#24 Postby Guest » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:58 pm

Oh well quess the point that I was making has been lost. I was not disappointed in the end result of Dennis weakening. I was merely concentrating on a better way to distinquish between storm with different properties. Forget it everyone this subject is mute, should have kept it in my CAT 5 size head. Thanks for all of your input. Goodnight everyone, i'll be going to Aunts house in Cantonment, Fl. tomorrow to help with the cleanup. Mod if you want, it might be a good idea to lock this thread, its losing its meaning, and its probably because I'm tired and didn't articulate my thoughts properly. Goodnight ya'll.
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#25 Postby THead » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:00 pm

I can't believe of all things you attacked the space program! How would we get all the purty pictures if it wasn't for the space program?! Plus countless other tools that were developed, and knowledge gained about the atmosphere, from going into space.

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#26 Postby joseph01 » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:06 pm

MGC wrote: I just don't know what could be a better measurement stick. MGC


There's the key Frederic is looking for, perhaps.

If you really think you can build a better measuring stick, and articulate it's construction well, then I'm reasonably certain you could get funding to try it out. In fact, I just looked over the National Science Foundation sight, Atmospheric Sciences Division, and they are looking for such proposals. Here's an excerpt:

"Physical and Dynamic Meteorology supports research involving studies of cloud physics; atmospheric electricity; radiation; boundary layer and turbulence; the initiation, growth, and propagation of gravity waves; all aspects of mesoscale meteorological phenomena, including their morphological, thermodynamic, and kinematic structure; development of mesoscale systems and precipitation processes; and transfer of energy between scales. The program also sponsors the development of new techniques and devices for atmospheric measurements."

Good luck Frederic.

You could also probably pay yourself quite well out of the funding.

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http://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=12728&org=ATM
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#27 Postby Windy » Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:57 pm

Frederic1979 wrote:
Cape Verde wrote:I get it Frederic. You want to be one of those Monday Morning Quarterbacks who demands that every play you saw the day before be called again in hindsight.<P>I suppose you demand the same from your stockbrocker, too, correct?<P>It's not good enough to call them as you see them, you want them called as you saw them.<P>Reality bites, kiddo.


I'm sorry did I offend you in some way? Did you find the need to attack me? :?:


Can't speak for him, but he mostly said what I would've. You're just whining. You have no solutions, just a list of problems. And your list of problems exist only in your head.

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