Systems moving into the GOMEX

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
crimi481
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 602
Joined: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:47 pm

Systems moving into the GOMEX

#1 Postby crimi481 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:13 am

I am surprised yhere are not more folks commenting on how last 6-7 systems that were forecast to enter Gulf (and intensify to strong TD or min Cane) completely took NHC (and most Mets) by surprise.
Almost all of these systems ( starting early last summer) virtually shredded -or "transferred" their energy in small fast movung spurts thta ended up traveling around that huge anchored miud-west dome high pressure

In short, in almost all of theese cases ( in or near S., Gulf area) - just 12-18 hours after Models and NHC state that all conditions basically favorable for intensifying, and landfalling on Gulf coast somewhere
Then...'poof -gone.
Is something wrong with atmosphere over tge Gulf?
0 likes   

User avatar
AJC3
Admin
Admin
Posts: 3999
Age: 61
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:04 pm
Location: Ballston Spa, New York
Contact:

Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2 Postby AJC3 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:20 am

crimi481 wrote:I am surprised yhere are not more folks commenting on how last 6-7 systems that were forecast to enter Gulf (and intensify to strong TD or min Cane) completely took NHC (and most Mets) by surprise.
Almost all of these systems ( starting early last summer) virtually shredded -or "transferred" their energy in small fast movung spurts thta ended up traveling around that huge anchored miud-west dome high pressure

In short, in almost all of theese cases ( in or near S., Gulf area) - just 12-18 hours after Models and NHC state that all conditions basically favorable for intensifying, and landfalling on Gulf coast somewhere
Then...'poof -gone.
Is something wrong with atmosphere over tge Gulf?


I've looked through the 2010-2011 NHC advisory archive. The reason not more folks are commenting on this is because it's not true.

(this topic has been split off into TT)
0 likes   

User avatar
Fyzn94
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 190
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:00 pm
Location: Central AR, USA

Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#3 Postby Fyzn94 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:23 am

crimi481 wrote:I am surprised yhere are not more folks commenting on how last 6-7 systems that were forecast to enter Gulf (and intensify to strong TD or min Cane) completely took NHC (and most Mets) by surprise.
Almost all of these systems ( starting early last summer) virtually shredded -or "transferred" their energy in small fast movung spurts thta ended up traveling around that huge anchored miud-west dome high pressure

In short, in almost all of theese cases ( in or near S., Gulf area) - just 12-18 hours after Models and NHC state that all conditions basically favorable for intensifying, and landfalling on Gulf coast somewhere
Then...'poof -gone.
Is something wrong with atmosphere over tge Gulf?


If you are referring to what happened with Don, he was sheared apart by the dry high pressure area over Texas.
0 likes   
NOTICE: I cannot give an expert analysis. Most of my "observations" are made visually with the help of only vital information provided by public advisories.

crimi481
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 602
Joined: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:47 pm

Re: Systems moving into the GOMEX

#4 Postby crimi481 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:42 am

I wish I had Satallite replays of Storms forecasted to enter Gulf, since June, 2010
Remember? They really acted strange, and actions not even mentioned/forecasted by NHC -or anyone.
Tghe "discussion" writers could not understand it either
0 likes   

User avatar
vbhoutex
Storm2k Executive
Storm2k Executive
Posts: 29113
Age: 73
Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2002 11:31 pm
Location: Cypress, TX
Contact:

Re: Systems moving into the GOMEX

#5 Postby vbhoutex » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:10 pm

crimi481 wrote:I wish I had Satallite replays of Storms forecasted to enter Gulf, since June, 2010
Remember? They really acted strange, and actions not even mentioned/forecasted by NHC -or anyone.
Tghe "discussion" writers could not understand it either

Are you able to provide the proof of your assertion? I doubt it.
AJC3 is a professional met and has stated that your assertion is not correct. I know he can provide proof. I would suggest you let this go.
0 likes   
Skywarn, C.E.R.T.
Please click below to donate to STORM2K to help with the expenses of keeping the site going:
Image

User avatar
NDG
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15446
Joined: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:14 pm
Location: Orlando, FL

Re: Systems moving into the GOMEX

#6 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:12 pm

crimi481 wrote:I am surprised yhere are not more folks commenting on how last 6-7 systems that were forecast to enter Gulf (and intensify to strong TD or min Cane) completely took NHC (and most Mets) by surprise.
Almost all of these systems ( starting early last summer) virtually shredded -or "transferred" their energy in small fast movung spurts thta ended up traveling around that huge anchored miud-west dome high pressure

In short, in almost all of theese cases ( in or near S., Gulf area) - just 12-18 hours after Models and NHC state that all conditions basically favorable for intensifying, and landfalling on Gulf coast somewhere
Then...'poof -gone.
Is something wrong with atmosphere over tge Gulf?


I think I know what you are refering to, I think, with so many misspelled words is hard to get it the first time.
Yes, the conditions in the northern half of the GOM have were not the best last year & so far this year. I am sure it has to do a lot with the heat ridge creating the conditions of dry air and shearing NE winds in the atmosphere. But the SW GOM/BOC have not seen these bad conditions.
I am not sure about getting the NHC forecasters & some other pro-mets by surprise to the effects on the storms of these conditions other than to what happened to TS Don, I do remember that last year TS Bonnie was forecasted to become a hurricane in the GOM by the models, but as soon it started nearing the NE GOM it weakened due to the dry and shearing conditions.
Is no surprise, is just bad models that have not seen the bad UL conditions that have been around in the northern GOM for the past year when a tropical system has been forecasted to go into that region.
0 likes   


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: cycloneye, dl20415, jhpigott, lolitx, sasha_B, WaveBreaking and 29 guests