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Question about ULL in Gulf

#1 Postby frederic79 » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:03 pm

I have been watching the approaching cold front on WV loops since yesterday. The front is clearly advancing eastward, however the last few hours seem to show some slowing. What, if any, effect does the ULL in the NW Gulf have on an approaching trough? It seems to be moving slowly north or northwest. The high pressure centered off the east coast is still centered near 77 west longitude. We could use some cool fall weather here but I'm beginning to wonder if the front gets this far south? Comments welcome.
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#2 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:10 pm

Much drier air is moving toward the coast as we speak. Check out dewpoints
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#3 Postby weatherwoman » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:17 pm

what does this mean for the storm
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#4 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:18 pm

Dry air over Texas has nothing to do with the storm right now.
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#5 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:19 pm

Surface dry air is spreading south along front toward the coast.
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#6 Postby weatherwoman » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:20 pm

you know a lot? I have been reading different places, JB i like to read he says he thinks this storm will come into north carolina. what do you think?
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#7 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:21 pm

That will probably happen.
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#8 Postby weatherwoman » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:23 pm

why do you say that? the hurricane center is showing sc so you think nc will get it instead?
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#9 Postby WxGuy1 » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:32 pm

Just as a note... I mentioned this last night, but it's quite important, and could save someone confusion down the road... You cannot see surface fronts on water vapor imagery! Water vapor imagery displays water vapor content in the mid- and upper-levels; many fronts are best seen and defined well below 700mb (i.e. the low-levels). The best way to track a cold front is by looking at surface observations. You can get yourself very confused very quickly if you try to associated a feature on water vapor to what is primarily a low-level feature (yes, there are features like cold fronts aloft, but we won't go there). Sometimes, processes associated with fronts are reflected in water vapor imagery (e.g. perhaps some mid-level subsidence associated with strong cold-air advection behind the front, etc), but that is not a dependable way of identify frontal zones (e.g. you could very well have a front at the surface with almost no discernable "feature" on water vapor). In the cases of very deep frontal zones, where a strong moisture gradient exists, you also need to account for frontal zone tilting, so there could be significant displacement anyway.

CLICK HERE for a little more detailed explanation. I left out all discussion on semi-geostrophic theory and it's implications in flow near fronts. :D
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#10 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:35 pm

weatherwoman wrote:why do you say that? the hurricane center is showing sc so you think nc will get it instead?
SC/NC border area is possible.
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#11 Postby weatherwoman » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:40 pm

thanks for your help i dont understand it all but thanks alot.
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#12 Postby frederic79 » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:16 pm

WxGuy1... thanks for the info. I assumed a strong front would show up on WV because it is a much drier air mass, but I realize now that's not necessarily the case. Always a learner... :)
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