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After Florida...then where

#1 Postby tomboudreau » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:18 am

Okay...I know its heading towards Florida...where is this system heading? Am I going to need to pay more attention to this system on vacation on the Outer Banks? Just curious. If need be, I can keep the laptop on and downloading the latest information.
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#2 Postby JtSmarts » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:46 am

I'd remain watchful for now, a lot can change in the next 5-6 days.
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#3 Postby Starburst » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:52 am

You know just maybe it could shift farther east and miss Florida all together. The trend every run has shifted more and more to the right.
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#4 Postby hurricanedude » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:33 am

Lyons said after crossing florida it could go up to the carolinas and then new england...multiple landfalls are possibe with this
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#5 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:09 am

I didnt think I would have to keep an eye on this one, maybe I was wrong
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#6 Postby tomboudreau » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:19 am

Well, then we shall remain watchful. If we have to go a day early, then we go a day early. No sense in staying in the path of this system.
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#7 Postby Stephanie » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:25 am

We could use the rain up here. At least by that time it'll be remnants.
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#8 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:54 am

hurricanedude wrote:Lyons said after crossing florida it could go up to the carolinas and then new england...multiple landfalls are possibe with this


This is just my own thoughts, and we all know tracks can change. However looking at the latest NHC track, and the model runs, it kind of reminds me of old charts I have of Donna in 1960 (both in terms of projected track, and pattern setup). Donna was somewhat different though (longer tracker, and North of the Islands), but we'll see.

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#9 Postby FrontRunner » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:57 am

Who knows, it could end up having a track similar to this notable hurricane:

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1960/DONNA/track.gif

At this point though it looks like Ernesto probably won't be as strong when hitting Florida or during any possible track up the east coast. Just a possible track similarity.
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#10 Postby brunota2003 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:01 am

FrontRunner wrote:Who knows, it could end up having a track similar to this notable hurricane:

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1960/DONNA/track.gif

At this point though it looks like Ernesto probably won't be as strong when hitting Florida or during any possible track up the east coast. Just a possible track similarity.
Yea...it will come down to how strong it gets in the Gulf and how badly does the inner core get disrupted when it crosses Florida...assuming it crosses Florida...I have my eyes on it and wont look back until I know I am safe...
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#11 Postby wxwatcher91 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:15 am

I'd compare it with Charley 2004, not Donna. Charley is nearly the exact same situation. It ended up just being a way over-hyped TD hitting Cape Cod... but track wise, it is possible.
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#12 Postby Stephanie » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:30 am

Both of those graphs are eerie looking! :eek:
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#13 Postby Regit » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:36 am

The Charley track posted from wunderground is incorrect in one aspect. The storm was a hurricane during its landfall near Myrtle Beach.

Such a storm would be even worse this year since it has been a VERY wet summer in parts of the eastern Carolinas. The similar was true in 1999 when Floyd caused moderated damage to areas that saw only TS force winds. The wet ground couldn't hold on to all the trees.

What would be even worse would be for Ernesto to hit the area dumping even more rain then have Florence or a later storm come up behind it.
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#14 Postby brunota2003 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:40 am

Regit wrote:The Charley track posted from wunderground is incorrect in one aspect. The storm was a hurricane during its landfall near Myrtle Beach.

Such a storm would be even worse this year since it has been a VERY wet summer in parts of the eastern Carolinas. The similar was true in 1999 when Floyd caused moderated damage to areas that saw only TS force winds. The wet ground couldn't hold on to all the trees.

What would be even worse would be for Ernesto to hit the area dumping even more rain then have Florence or a later storm come up behind it.
That is what happend to us during Floyd...Dennis came and soaked the area, then Floyd came and finished the job...I still remember seeing all the video in the news with pigs ontop of roofs at the farms and all the flooding...very horrible...and yes I did also notice the wunderground track is just a "tad" off since it was still a hurricane well up into Eastern NC according to the NHC windfield map...
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#15 Postby oceancounty » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:47 am

If it was only remnants here at the Jersey shore, then we could use the rain. If it is a strong tropical storm or even a hurricane up here, then we would definately have a problem. I don't even think people up here would know what to do if a hurricane hit us, it would probably be mass chaos at the shore.
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#16 Postby storms in NC » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:53 am

brunota2003 wrote:
Regit wrote:The Charley track posted from wunderground is incorrect in one aspect. The storm was a hurricane during its landfall near Myrtle Beach.

Such a storm would be even worse this year since it has been a VERY wet summer in parts of the eastern Carolinas. The similar was true in 1999 when Floyd caused moderated damage to areas that saw only TS force winds. The wet ground couldn't hold on to all the trees.

What would be even worse would be for Ernesto to hit the area dumping even more rain then have Florence or a later storm come up behind it.
That is what happend to us during Floyd...Dennis came and soaked the area, then Floyd came and finished the job...I still remember seeing all the video in the news with pigs ontop of roofs at the farms and all the flooding...very horrible...and yes I did also notice the wunderground track is just a "tad" off since it was still a hurricane well up into Eastern NC according to the NHC windfield map...


I know all to well. I live it. The smell was so so bad. still once in a while you will still get a smell that remines you of that time. I don't want to leave my house again in a boat.
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#17 Postby OuterBanker » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:30 pm

Tom,

I tell you what you can't leave this place for even a day. I haven't been near my puter since Fri (puter full time here though). When I left Fri I was prepared to come back Mon and see if Mx or Tx was going to get Ernesto, west coast of Fla wasn't even a thought of back then. Wow,what a difference a day can make. Anyway, come on down unless they evac (hope you purchesed hurricane ins). If the media starts mentioning the OBX as a second landfall it will kill business for Labor Day weekend.
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#18 Postby hurricanefreak1988 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:35 pm

wxwatcher91 wrote:(images of Charley 2004's track)

That's exactly who I thought of when I saw Ernesto's projected path. He's pretty much Charley's twin, except not quite as strong. For now, anyway.
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#19 Postby Stormsfury » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:36 pm

Charley's situation was an unusually deep trough for August and accelerated Charley's forward movement to near 20 kts at landfall and kept it speeding along. HOWEVER, scenarios are possibly panning out that suggest a potential stallout after landfall. Several global guidance suggested the possibility of a wedging high pressure dome along the Eastern side of the Appalachian mountains (IOW, warm season cold air damming/wedging) ...

WAY WAY too early to exactly tell at this point ...

Should that scenario pan out, it would cause a potential stall and a westward drift in time and could become a rainmaker story. Too early to really speculate at this time to effects however.

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#20 Postby shaggy » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:46 pm

brunota2003 wrote:
Regit wrote:The Charley track posted from wunderground is incorrect in one aspect. The storm was a hurricane during its landfall near Myrtle Beach.

Such a storm would be even worse this year since it has been a VERY wet summer in parts of the eastern Carolinas. The similar was true in 1999 when Floyd caused moderated damage to areas that saw only TS force winds. The wet ground couldn't hold on to all the trees.



What would be even worse would be for Ernesto to hit the area dumping even more rain then have Florence or a later storm come up behind it.
That is what happend to us during Floyd...Dennis came and soaked the area, then Floyd came and finished the job...I still remember seeing all the video in the news with pigs ontop of roofs at the farms and all the flooding...very horrible...and yes I did also notice the wunderground track is just a "tad" off since it was still a hurricane well up into Eastern NC according to the NHC windfield map...



funny you mentioned the pigs on rooftops since we are now inudated with wild feral pigs in my county because of this.We have been helping farmers try to control them and i shot one that was over 350 pounds a few weeks ago.People dont think of livestock and pets that get loose during storms and the subsequent damage they cause.Also the map showing hurricane force winds into eastern NC from charley is a bit out of sorts we never had a gust over 55 here in greenville....

Ernesto and his effects on the east coast depend largly on how far he moves out over the atlantic and how much room he has to strengthen
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