Joint statement by hurricane experts

[StrongWind]

Hmm - I knew POTUS was the most powerful man in the world, but I'm still amazed he has single handedly been able to reverse all the prior Presidents' efforts to halt global warming. I also missed the Presidential edicts banning discussions on CO2 and "electrics" as they relate to TC's.

Mods - Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Bush & Mayfield bashing (as posted) constitute 'politics?'

Waterwind,

I could not be more on topic. This statement, issued by Max Mayfield and other BushCo spokespersons is . . . well, political. And only a fool by now does not see the connection of big oil to Bush.

I heard with my own ears Jeb talking about smart FEMA--awarding victims or states if they have better building codes and so forth. And that would include, I suppose, building away from dangerous flood zones and so forth. But the fact of the matter is the message is of the 'skeptics'. Dr. Gray is . . . he signs off his forecasts with the no reasonable link of CO2 to hurricanes type language. So it's bait and switch, and right to the Jeb Bush talking points. And BTW . . . dah--it makes sense to put some strings on the givaways.

Weathernole,

I just respectfully disagree. My father was a meteorologist with the Air Force and he now is professionally in the telecommunications industry. So, yes, of course you can be a meteorologist and know what a capaciter is. But let me give you an example of what I am talking about, the vacuum of knowledge: say we are talking about how about 4 am Texas gets these rain events. Why at night like this? Mmm?

We all know about how the air cools in the afternoon from the peak of heating and then there are instabilities and condensation -- that there is a peak time of day when there are thunderstorms. BUT why in the early mornings is there flooding rain?

Enter electrics.

Couplings that are created in the Gulf of Mexico from the days thunderstorm activity are a form of STORED electrical energy. So even as the thunderstorms end, cloud microphysics are impacted. Indeed, some of the electrical fields created by thunderstorms are not nearly as organized as the couplings in the GOM may be--that they distort the fields that the couplings bring about. So it is in the conditions later of lack of lightning that the couplings begin to express cloud microphysics orders--early in the morning.

Do we see any meteorologists discussing this type of phenomenon? No. We don't--and be honest. And CERTAINLY in this political arena you are not going to see a Dr. Gray disciple talking about CO2 electrics. Not a chance in . . . well, no chance.
No, its bait and switch, and get back on talking points. Well excuse me but talking points to me are another form of LYING.

[mobilebay]

Hmm - I knew POTUS was the most powerful man in the world, but I'm still amazed he has single handedly been able to reverse all the prior Presidents' efforts to halt global warming. I also missed the Presidential edicts banning discussions on CO2 and "electrics" as they relate to TC's.

Mods - Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Bush & Mayfield bashing (as posted) constitute 'politics?'

Waterwind,

I could not be more on topic. This statement, issued by Max Mayfield and other BushCo spokespersons is . . . well, political. And only a fool by now does not see the connection of big oil to Bush.

I heard with my own ears Jeb talking about smart FEMA--awarding victims or states if they have better building codes and so forth. And that would include, I suppose, building away from dangerous flood zones and so forth. But the fact of the matter is the message is of the 'skeptics'. Dr. Gray is . . . he signs off his forecasts with the no reasonable link of CO2 to hurricanes type language. So it's bait and switch, and right to the Jeb Bush talking points. And BTW . . . dah--it makes sense to put some strings on the givaways.

Weathernole,

I just respectfully disagree. My father was a meteorologist with the Air Force and he now is professionally in the telecommunications industry. So, yes, of course you can be a meteorologist and know what a capaciter is. But let me give you an example of what I am talking about, the vacuum of knowledge: say we are talking about how about 4 am Texas gets these rain events. Why at night like this? Mmm?

We all know about how the air cools in the afternoon from the peak of heating and then there are instabilities and condensation -- that there is a peak time of day when there are thunderstorms. BUT why in the early mornings is there flooding rain?

Enter electrics.

Couplings that are created in the Gulf of Mexico from the days thunderstorm activity are a form of STORED electrical energy. So even as the thunderstorms end, cloud microphysics are impacted. Indeed, some of the electrical fields created by thunderstorms are not nearly as organized as the couplings in the GOM may be--that they distort the fields that the couplings bring about. So it is in the conditions later of lack of lightning that the couplings begin to express cloud microphysics orders--early in the morning.

Do we see any meteorologists discussing this type of phenomenon? No. We don't--and be honest. And CERTAINLY in this political arena you are not going to see a Dr. Gray disciple talking about CO2 electrics. Not a chance in . . . well, no chance.
No, its bait and switch, and get back on talking points. Well excuse me but talking points to me are another form of LYING.

I agree. I was trying to get the MODS attention earlier. I'm tired of his politics, electrical hogwash, and Met bashing. To the MOD that will ban him I say more power to you. Pun intended!

[Cookiely]

If anyone has a problem with a post or poster please don't post it on the board. Simply send a message to the mod in private. Its sort of like airing dirty linen in public.

[Aquawind]

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