This arguement has gone on for 4 months to the day almost so

[Audrey2Katrina]

I was warned about the HURDAT dataset that has not been reanalysed. What happened was John Hope and Charlie Neumann focused mainly on track; thus, intensities are subject to VERY LARGE error. Lets wait for the reanalysis, but there is a chance that it will lose cat 5 status (and Hugo could be awarded it) as we know that the winds start to decrease before the pressure has stopped falling in the northern GOM

As in Katrina was never a 5?

That would be a shocker

I believe he was speaking of Camille at landfall... there's very little doubt Katrina was a 5 while out in the Gulf.

A2K

[Jim Cantore]

I was about to say

Camille I think could have been as low as 145 or as high as 165

[Extremeweatherguy]

I was warned about the HURDAT dataset that has not been reanalysed. What happened was John Hope and Charlie Neumann focused mainly on track; thus, intensities are subject to VERY LARGE error. Lets wait for the reanalysis, but there is a chance that it will lose cat 5 status (and Hugo could be awarded it) as we know that the winds start to decrease before the pressure has stopped falling in the northern GOM

As in Katrina was never a 5?

That would be a shocker

I believe he was speaking of Camille at landfall... there's very little doubt Katrina was a 5 while out in the Gulf.

A2K

Yes, there is no doubt that Katrina reached Cat. 5 status while in the Gulf. Camille may be able to be debated though, but either way I think Camille was at least a strong Cat. 4 at peak intensity.

[Derek Ortt]

No Doubt that Camielle was a 5 in the GOM. However, I doubt it was at landfall because not only was the pressure rising and we know that the winds start to decrease before the pressure starts rising, but there was also land interaction. Camielle's western eye wall came very close to if not over Plaquemines and caused major damage there

[f5]

Katrina was a very strong 5 166 knots 0r 191 mph at 10,000 ft

[brunota2003]

but thats at 10,000 ft...not ground level...

[Jim Cantore]

191 at 10,000 is what at ground level? 160mph? 170?