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Unusual radar feature

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:22 pm
by senorpepr
We had this topic pop up at work...

Can you identify the circular features that appear below?

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The answer, according to the following link: http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/blog/

About 25 minutes after the time of the IR images [shown on the aforementioned link], an interesting meteorological radar signature of bird “roost rings” was observed. Large numbers of birds dispersed from their nocturnal roost sites during the early morning hours to begin feeding, and as the flock crossed the radar beam, ring-like signatures were seen on the Milwaukee/Sullivan radar composite reflectivity product as the birds spread out across the area. Similar radar signatures are also occasionally seen with bat swarms.

At least two of the roost rings appear to have originated from the general vicinity of some of the larger (warmer) lakes noted on the MODIS and GOES IR imagery: Beaver Dam Lake (located northeast of Madison, KMSN), and Lake Koshkonong (located southeast of Madison). As close as one of the larger roost rings came to Dane County Regional Airport in Madison, one also has to wonder if the high density of birds may have potentially been an aviation hazard for a brief period of time?

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:34 pm
by O Town
Oh how cool! I have heard that you can also see the lotus when they are swarming heavily.
I was thinking it was some sort of heat source.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:09 pm
by artist
that is awesome! I guess it doesn't get caught on radar often.
Thanks for sharing! :)

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:43 pm
by Tstormwatcher
Wow, that has got to be alot of birds to do that to a radar.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:47 pm
by RL3AO
That is really cool that birds a good distance apart leave at the exact same time.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:52 am
by Stephanie
That is cool!

It's also migration season. It's not that surprising that there are a lot of birds in one area, but to have it captured on radar is pretty neat. :D

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:54 am
by Aquawind
Use to watch that out of the KMPX radar all the time..although the timming for all of the locations in that loop is impressive. We get similar images from micro quick storm cell outflows at times..definately funky outflow boundries down here.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:47 pm
by wxmann_91
You can see these things during spring evenings at DFX, as a result of bats:

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/coolimg/

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:40 am
by wall_cloud
you are right. those would likely be birds. Here in Texas, there are several places that you see the Bats (oh...wxmann_91 just beat me too it). those roost rings are likely centered over/near bodies of water.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:54 am
by brunota2003
"And now for your short term forecast. We expect clear conditions, with three large rings of birds flying over head. There is a 20% chance of something falling from the sky. Sunrise should be a nice one this morning, for those of you that are not blocked out by the birds. If it looks like a scene from the movie 'The Birds', well, maybe it just is."

Yep, I knew it was either birds or bats as soon as I saw it ^^

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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:11 am
by TexasStooge
What a sight to see! Thanks for posting it!

brunota2003 wrote:"And now for your short term forecast. We expect clear conditions, with three large rings of birds flying over head. There is a 20% chance of something falling from the sky. Sunrise should be a nice one this morning, for those of you that are not blocked out by the birds. If it looks like a scene from the movie 'The Birds', well, maybe it just is."

Yep, I knew it was either birds or bats as soon as I saw it ^^


LOL!!

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:54 pm
by pman
Interesting post senorprp. I remember reading about this on one of the sites too with the bats in TX and another time about insect swarms showing up as a false return.